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145 opinions for Angelina Jolie disappointed over lack of black Disney Princess

• Celeb Watcher
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:08 pm

  I believe Laura Ingraham is right (and she has been to Iraq, by the way).

  The world is suffering in various ways and Angelina is upset about fairy tale princesses? Zahara lives in a multi-racial family. Part of that life, I would think, is to realize there is no real thing as race; rather, while there may be pigment differences in skin, we are all a part of the human race. True, she said “African” and not “black”; but, does that imply that Z can’t have a white role model? Really don’t think Angelina was implying such - but, there are bigger battles to fight. Disney doesn’t have a lot of Africans in their shows period. Maybe that should change. But, Z shouldn’t be any better or worse off if they choose to do it or they choose not to do it. They are cartoons. Push real role models. Much ado about nothing.

• Children First
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:17 pm

  Could she possibly be more demeaning and dismissive? When since does ANYONE get to superimpose their distain for your FEELINGS and not come off as a sanctimonious prat? So what, Angelina does not have the right to make a CHOICE for one of her daughters? This person is so over the top on this, that SHE is the one who is blowing a simple comment, copletely out of proportion. Angie has every right to express her feelings! This woman is way out of line!

• Sherry
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:33 pm

  Celeb Watcher - I completely get where you’re coming from. Of course real people make better role models, but at a very young age, kids don’t care about being told stories of Rosa Parks or hear that Oprah is building schools for African girls. At a young age, kids like cartoon figures.

  I agree with you, she’s in a multi-cultural family and that will stand for a lot, as will the personal stories her parents can tell about their travels and things they’ve seen. But I still don’t think it’s unreasonable to wish Disney would catch up with life and and add more racial diversity to their films, including cartoons.

  My daughters are bi-racial and we make sure that they have white dolls AND black dolls. Of course they see that some of their family members are white and some are black, and that’s more important, but it’s still important to show them on a level they understand via their toys and what they watch. We see many cartoons here that have different ethnicities in the characters but it’s true that it would be nice to see a black princess too alongside the numerous white princesses, the one Native American, the one Middle Eastern, and the one Asian you know?

  Plus, I think Laura really blew it way out of proportion. It’s not like Angelina was demanding a boycott of Disney or taking to the streets with protesters, it was just a comment. I don’t think she’s foaming at the mouth mad about Disney, just wishing they’d do something.

  (And apparently there is an upcoming Disney film with a black princess so yay)

• "another" Sherry
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:36 pm

  I agree with AJ :) of coures but, she has a point. Once when Oprah Winfrey was doing something like those “American Dolls” on her show. There were NO black dolls and it she said something like “well you should get some”. It amazes me that that was so long ago and to think they still don’t have an African princess is absurd. I didn’t watch the video because I don’t watch anything from Fox. Nor do I watch Oprah anymore since the bashing of AJ & BP

• yaya
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:37 pm

  first of all who is this lady, if the world has more problems then maybe she should talk of those things on her show instead of Angelina’s problem

• "another" Sherry
  Jun 6, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  ps..apologies for spelling errors I better trim the nails

• charlie
  Jun 6, 2008 at 10:06 pm

  Why do so many get all upset about something she SUPPOSEDLY said. We don’t even know if she really said it.

  But for the sake of the conversation, let’s say Ange really said this. Why is everyone all worked up about this? Is every conversation Ange’s involved has to be something serious? Can Ange say something in passing as she takes her kid/kids out? May that’s how she felt at the time she went through the place with Z. It’s truely amazing that everything she does or anything she says is being so harshly criticized by another woman.

  It’s so true. Women can’t stand another woman being better or more successful than they are!

  Whatever her name is, the blond one the tub, when she says all the nagetive things about Ange, she looks very ugly.

• Kari
  Jun 6, 2008 at 10:07 pm

  I don’t think the comment AJ made was controversial or problematic at all, even taken at face value (irrespective of her own immaculate humanitarian credentials). The lack of ‘black’ and other ethnic minorities in the movies has been considered a huge problem by African Americans and other minorities for decades. Remember, the cultural is political?? I thought AJ’s comment was simply her own realization that having an Ethiopian daughter had made her come to realize for herself, in very clear terms, how these issues pose a problem — say for her daughter’s self image. While in the abstract everyone agrees with Celebwatcher, we are all part of the human race, few African American or other cultural critics agree with that a kind of false universalism. Anyway, from a simple standpoint: Just as it is important for African Americans to see that there are successful people of all races, it is important for her daughter to be able to see that there are princesses of all races.
  Otherwise I think Sherry’s defense of AJ at the top of the paragraph is very much on target. These are separate, though both important issues. AJ is neglecting neither.

• Jude
  Jun 6, 2008 at 10:21 pm

  omg.
  Just another reason why one should NEVER watch FOX news.
  brainless, mindless, thoughtless people.

• Ginger
  Jun 6, 2008 at 10:53 pm

  There is a Disney movie coming out with a Black Princess. Please search for it and read it.
  It should be out in a year or so. I think it’s the Princess and the Frog? I’m not exactly sure. I read in a few months back.
  I think Angie wants her family to fit in anywhere and feel like they shouldn’t be discriminate against at all. So her point is true just that there is going to be a Disney movie coming out with a Black Princess…

• Jana
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:07 pm

  I don’t think Angelina’s comment was controversial at all either.

  I have bi-racial girls as well. When they wanted an african american doll I got them one. When they wanted a white doll I got them one. I remember looking for a specific color doll for many years for Christmas. One year they wanted white, one year bi-racial (or what looked bi-racial) one year african american.

  I can actually see her point. When your children get in to a specific kind of toy/doll, you want to try to find them one that goes with them - their personality.

  Why does everyone always want to make something out of nothing.

• BiggestFan
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:25 pm

  I am a huge fan of this site and thanks for all your work sherry. I have never left a comment but I have enjoyed reading them. this comment is directed to celebwatcher. I was wondering 1) are you of african/black decent? and 2) have you been to disney world in orlando florida? I ask this questions because as a woman of african decent, it is very important for us especially these days to see people of color included in all things. it shows equally and to a young child, it signifies possibilities. “Z” is a young girl and right now, princesses and telly tubies are the most important things in her life. and although there are much bigger things going on in the world, a parent is still a parent and need to focus on what is important in their kids life. I have been to disney world and I can assure you that a white child is more likely to identify with the characters than a black child. Yes, anyone can and should be a role model to anyone regardless of race, gender and creed but it is also nice to see someone that looks like you in order to dream of the possibilities.

• Ana
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:37 pm

  This Laura has so much hatred in her heart. She is a clear picture of an unhappy person.

  I am a mother of 3, and as a mother sometimes you wish that there were more choices for your children in terms of anything, and sometimes it does not make sense… it does not have to make sense. As a mother you just want to see your child happy or have a good time. I think Angelina was just expressing this. How did the blood vials and tattoos come in the the picture?

  I think this Laura is envious of Angelina because despite her past people listen to her and respect her. I don’t blame Laura, Angelina has every thing! Money, fame, family….and she is the sexiest woman in the world with the sexiest man on her side.

• kc
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:42 pm

  I don’t know who this woman is but she has no ethics whatsoever when she talks. Apparently, this woman has been asleep all this time to not know what AJ has done and has continously been doing, along with BP. What has she done for mankind? She must be annoyed that Brad did not go for her instead. And what does she think Angie can do about the gasoline and the economy issues, there is only so much she can do, besides Bush was the one who started this problem and now he passing it on to the next one in line. I think, if AJ could only solve the current problems were having, I honestly believe she would.

• angela
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:55 pm

  i think that angie’s comment was taken way seriously - like overrated.
  meanwhile, princess Z can look up to Jasmine of Aladdin, i’m not quite sure if she’s african or black american princess or asian(?) but her skin color is close to Z and besides princess Jasmine is beautiful and smart. i’m sure Z will love her.

• tenika
  Jun 6, 2008 at 11:58 pm

  1st Thanx 4 This Topic Sherry!! As An African American Woman With Many Nieces I Agree With Angies Statement. Children Are Not Idiots And If They Are Shown Thru Cartoons That The “Beautiful” And “Good” Female Characters Are White, What Do U Think That Says In The Mind Of A Minority Little Girl? The Issue Is Not Race But Embracing Different Cultures And Seeing That They Too Are Beautiful….. And Im Not Even Going To Dignify That Laura Chick With A Comment. Please

• Triplegem
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:12 am

  I normally do not make comments on the websites that I frequent, however I found this to be an interesting topic. Celebwatcher, while it is true that real people are the best role models it is naive to believe that children don’t draw some sense of esteem, pride and possibilities when they see positive characters (in the media that they are exposed to) that look like them. That goes for any child and not simply black children. This notion of a colorblind society is a farce. The fact is that all groups, regardless of ethnicity, would like to be respected and not necessarily completely assimilated into some colorless group, which is completely devoid of unique culture and customs. There is nothing wrong with being different, however no one wants to be disregarded or marginalized for it. As such, the lack of positive ethnic characters serves as a systematic means of marginalizing non-caucasian ethnic groups. IMHO. There is so much more that I can say on this topic, however there is simply not enough time or space.

• Cesaria
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:22 am

  I find it more telling that some people would be upset at others wanting to have a visual image to relate to and in some sort of way, acknowledge that you a part of something and not excluded. Something simple and trivial to others as dolls means a lot to little kids who are at that developmental stage where they may not fully understand what they are seeing but know it doesn’t look like them, have their hair or color.

• Tina
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:49 am

  Wow! It was interesting how Laura reacted to the comment! She seemed really cynical almost t a point of hatred towards AJ (not really saying it but you can hear how she said it.) Also, how she said that AJ should just “focus on her 40 million house.” I think you are right that they are blowing it out of proportion. It’s true what AJ said…there is no African Princess. Yeah, there’s Pocahontas, but she is not a princess. Princess Jamine is sort of an Arabian Princess, still not black princess. It’s just a comment of AJ and I think that she’s just bringing up an issue so I agree with all of you above. It’s a valid one and it’s not saying that she cares more about that issue more than everything else. Geez, I dont think AJ meant anything hurtful towards anyone..it was just an idea. Can’t help it if our wonderful AJ just says it like it is. More power to our Brangelina!

• LIZA
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:19 am

  laura ingraham, wants only publicity, and she is using angelina…am sure that her radio progam will be the number radio program on air…

• baby dalailama
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:59 am

  i don’t know any of the people involved in that “discussion” but i gather LAURA is a radio host of some kind….all that came across to me is that she was incredibly rude..you don’t start laying into someone just because they make an observation (that happens to be true anyway) she obviously didn’t have a single good word to say about Angie and used this as a good excuse to put her down.her earlier comments were stupid enough but when she patronisingly said “just concentrate on your 40 million dollar house” i was speechless !! she only showed what a ridiculous and mean spirited person she is. you can bet if she actually had angie there in the studio she would be falling all over her, agreeing with everything she said and generally sucking up…so as usual with this type of long distance media bullying its a mixture of jealousy, ignorance and publicity seeking.the good thing is that everyone will have seen LAURA for what she really is and it ain’t pretty!!

• lac
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:24 am

  This just shows how stupid the media has become. Angelina answered a question at a news conference for Kung Fu Panda. She did not hold a new conference to annouce she was protesting against Disney because there are no black princesses. But from Fox sill segment you would think that is actually what is what Angelina did.

  Shouldn’t Fox has been spending time on more inportant subjects.

• sarah
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:27 am

  Wow Sherry,

  Did u hear that woman? she trully is jelaous of angie and hates her…..mentioning the tatoos and the house she and brad bought/rented in france…..
  i mean alot of people hate her that’s because she’s beatiful, rich and a nice person….and not forgetting that alot of people love her as well

• lac
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:37 am

  This just shows how stupid the media has become. Angelina answered a question at a news conference for Kung Fu Panda. She did not hold a new conference to announce she was protesting against Disney because there are no black princesses. But from Fox segment you would think that is actually what Angelina did.

  Shouldn’t Fox has been spending time on more inportant subjects.

• Brangelina_Fan
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:03 am

  To take the topic superficially, I think, AJ has all the rights to say her opinion about the lack of black princesses in Disney Films. AJ is a consumer, and she has the right to comment on the offered products or services of the Disney company. Sorry folks, she happened to be a very influential consumer. It’s something like expecting a chocolate flavor among a lot of vanilla-like flavor variety of ice creams, lol.

  On a deeper understanding of the issue, AJ is right. There are not a lot of african princesses or black princesses portrayed in Disney Cartoons.

  About Lauran Ingraham, I think the woman has a personal issue with AJ. She criticizes her also for her tattoes. I think she speaks like a typical white supremacist. I think, she should better be born black in her next incarnation inorder to feel how it is to belong to a discriminated race.

  By the way, all the talks about race equality is but a wishful thinking. Before the law, yes, all humans are equal, but there are still a lot of discrimination and inhuman treatments being done to people of color everywhere in the world, especially in the US on a daily basis.

  I applaud Angelina Jolie a famous white woman for insisting or just voicing out the preferences of her black daughter against a global company. I think, AJ is a credible example that for her, skin color doesn’t really matter.

• Brangelina_Fan
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:07 am

  “I think, AJ is a credible example that for her, skin color doesn’t really matter”.

  I mean, that black colored people or people of color should also get equal attention and importance as white people.

• Rach
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:32 am

  Wow. It’s pretty ridiculous how almost everything Angelina says (even if it’s slightly controversial or not controversial at all) get’s taken out of proportion. Everyone knows Angelina is smart and speaks sense. I like how people in this business have a habit of mixing words and meanings. I’m sure Shi and Z watch alot of Princess movies and i guess she notices that the princess’ are always white. I’m a white person and i think it’d be interesting to have a black princess! Like Sherry said, something suitable for a role-model at this age. I mean i know there has been Princess’ with different ethnicities before (Jasmine, Pocahontas) so i really don’t see what the big deal is about her saying there should be a black one. I don’t think Angelina is reinforcing the attitude that blacks are different from whites or whatever but they are a very cultural family and have every right to be. It can only be beneficial for them. This woman, it seems, just wants to get viewers by talking about Angelina when clearly she doesn’t have a clue about her.

• sewad
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:36 am

  I am a 35 Year old balck female and have wondered about this for decades, I was so happy in the 90’s because Princess Jasmine was a lot darker than the others. For people who don’t get it, they never will. Think how a white child or yourself would feel in China where nothing of yourself is reflected on TV or the main culture seems to reflect you negatively, you probably would have a complex. For a great opinion ask the Asian kid or black kid adopted in a white family about association and how important it is for the development of selfworth. Like I said if anyone here hasn’t gotten it they never will.

• Mary Ann
  Jun 7, 2008 at 4:59 am

  I am thankful for the fact that my children, and now their children do not see skin color. But, I agree that Disney should try to catch up.

• Dapyro
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:34 am

  My children are bi-racial and I can tell you that the role models on the shows they see must and should represent the whole spectrum. Laura clearly missed the point. Disney is one of the biggest producers of shows kids see and they have ignore one sector. Ignoring that sector is representative of what the world is like. She has a daughter who later on in life will be hit with racism and while at present she does not really notice it, I do know my son’s 7 year old classmates in Australia thought it was funny to call him chocolate one term. He spent so much time trying to make his skin dry so that he could scratch it “white”. Laura is an idiot if she does not understand that something Angelina highlighted is actually a lot more serious when you look at what it represents in terms of cultural awareness and pride in media.

• baby dalailama
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:50 am

  why are my comments in moderation?

• sarahc
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:58 am

  Angelina was being that lion for her child.

• gena G.
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:45 am

  WHO THE H—-CARE WHAT HER NAME IS SAYING. ANGIE HAS THE RIGHT OT EXPRESS HER OPINION. THERE ARE STILL RACIST IN THIS COUNTRY AND BY THE WAY LAURA WHOEVER YOU ARE YOU MAYBE ONE OF THEM. ANGELINA LOVE PEOPLE OF ALL COLOR. WHAT SHE WAS SAYING IS BECAUSE ‘Z’ MIGHT BE ASKING QUESTION OF WHY THERE IS NO PRINCESS IN HER KIND,SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO A CHILD, OF COURSE ANGIE IS DISSAPPOINTED BECAUSE SHE LOVE HER CHILDREN, IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT ‘ LAURA WHOEVER YOU ARE”. DON’T WORRY PRINCESS Z YOU ARE OUR PRINCESS. AND PRINCESS JASMINE ALTHOUGH SHE IS AN ARAB PRINCESS SHE IS OUR COLOR. SOMEDAY THIS WORLD WILL WAKE UP THAT LOVING PEOPLE OF ALL COLOR IS WHAT ‘GOD WANT US TO DO’ I WOULD LOVE FOR LAURA WHATEVER YOUR LAST NAME IS TO GO TO CHURCH AND PRAY FOR YOUR SIN.

• Sherry
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:13 am

  Thanks to everyone so far - this conversation is off to a great start.

  I just want to apologize to everyone who had a comment in moderation. I woke up this morning to find 20 comments waiting for approval and I honestly don’t know why they weren’t automatically posted. I don’t completely understand all the details of how the moderation queue is set up. Sometimes it’s obvious and other times, like today, it’s really not obvious at all.

  Please don’t be discouraged by the moderation and do keep talking about this, I am really loving the discussion, especially since we have so many great readers and commenters. Our weather forecast for this weekend is absolute crap (lots of rain and thunderstorms) so I will likely be around most of the time and I will try to push moderated comments through as quickly as I can to keep the conversation flowing.

  You guys are the BEST.

• Matilda
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:15 am

  Considering Angelina only made one comment - one sentence at that - I hardly think it qualifies as “making a big deal” anyway! But this is part of a bigger cultural issue, really, and it’s not just restricted to the American culture. We have similar debates here in Australia, due to a large multicultural population (mainly Asian migrants) who are very rarely reflected on screen. It’s really natural for Angelina to want to give Zahara and world where she sees herself reflected in equal proportion to others.

  No, in the grand scheme of things it probably isn’t important when compared with the horror and injustice going on in some parts of the world, but then again what is? Someone being bullied at school - well, in on a global scale it’s not important, but at a local level it’s very important. Same with all local issues. They’re important to people and we have a right to complain, even though they’ll always pale in comparison to the world’s greater problems.

  But I do see your point of view, Celeb Watcher. And you’re totally right, as well - it’s a valid point. This kind of just hit a nerve for me, I guess, because things like this matter in people’s lives.

  Kari, great post. I think you pretty much said everything I wanted to, except much better!

• Barbara
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:21 am

  Good for Angelina Jolie and may she extend that observation to popular culture — including Hollywood! I’m white, my son, too, but he (he’s 11) constantly asks why there are no people of color on TV, both shows and commercials, and why there are not more people of color in magazines. That our culture is still predominantly one color is a huge issue, along with hunger, war, child labor; it’s not either/or!

• cheryl
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:24 am

  This is no different than women wanting posative roll models on televsion all those years ago. We got afully ired of hearing Jeanie call Tony “master” and Darrin insisting Samantha be “an ordinary housewife” etc. etc. We wanted our daughters to see women doctors and lawyers and executives. Television impacts child long before text books and real roll models
  Disney needs to get on board and provide some beautiful,smart,african female fairyale characters.
  Thank you Angie for trying to break one more glass ceiling and to lift the self esteem of all children

• cheryl
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:25 am

  sorry about the text and spelling , I have some keys that stick

• isacutie
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:40 am

  Oh wow, another mountain out of a molehill (and maybe not even a molehill). I think I saw this quote somewhere, but it’s not a very reliable source. Did Angie really say this? I’m not too sure. But even if she did, she was just giving her opinion about something. Many of you are right, Angie for one is very aware of the much larger issues that are plaguing this world, and thankfully, she is one of those who are doing her part in trying to help solve some of them. (She can’t do it all, for those who keep trying to put her down!) We don’t even know the context of why she said this (if she ever did), maybe some one asked her. As Matilda said, it is just one comment. And who is making her comment a big deal anyway? Isn’t it the media who is picking on everything that Angie says or does? Geez…

  As for not having a black princess (yep, I did read somewhere that Disney is about to come up with one), it does sense to make that observation. It is true anyway. I’m Asian (Chinese-Filipina), and when I was young, I do remember wondering why the Disney heroines were always white.

• BeeBee
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:41 am

  Oh my God.. listen to that low live women laura what ever her name is, she talk with so much hate in that voice of hers.. she even foaming from her mouth… and she look soooo ugly.. no wonder she hated gorgeous beautiful Angie..
  Viva la our Brangelina.

• anita
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:43 am

  It is truly interesting to read all the comments re: black princess in Disney production and Angie has all the right to view her opinion as a Mom first and consumer second .i totally agree that this Laura is so damned envious of Angie’s success and she purposely issued those comments so people would start listening to her and have few minutes of fame. Laura is a racist and she should apologize to Angie for attacking her innocent comment. We love you Angie and keep your head up high. We have a saying in my country that ” A tree that bears a lot of fruits, get “stoned’ so many times, so there you go, you are so bountiful and fruitful that people talk about you too much. Lots of love to you ,Brad and all your rainbow-coloured children.

• Carrie
  Jun 7, 2008 at 8:18 am

  I remember reading that Pocohontas is multicultural in that she has attributes of all the races layered into her. I don’t think it should surprise us much that Disney isn’t cutting age when it comes to diversity. I think it would be nice to see some disabled heroines as well.

• Nicollette
  Jun 7, 2008 at 8:28 am

  Thanks Sherry for the story. I actually used to work for Disney and there is a black disney princess movie coming to theatres soon. Anika Noni Rose from dreamgirls is set to play the voice of Princess Tiana. The movie is called, “The Princess and the Frog” you can look it up on IMDB.com…and angelina does so much for the world and has the right to express how she feels

• ebdbmcc
  Jun 7, 2008 at 8:33 am

  It may have been out of line for her to bring up aj’s past because people do grow up and the blood vial comment and tatoo comments were unnecessary, however I agree with her with some respects to the interview. AJ is extremely famous, and she definately knew what she was doing when she made the comment towards disney with respect to black princesses. She totally knew it would be a big deal because of who she is. In my opinion, she should focus on how she is going to explain to Z that mommy and daddy are not married. If anything should make Z feel like an outcast, that certainly will.

• Anon
  Jun 7, 2008 at 8:48 am

  I just wanted to speak up for Disney right quick. One of the reasons, I bet, that they’ve avoided African/African-American princesses (or even characters) in their movies is because of the tensions involved when a white dominated company tries to portray a black girl. Many people may see intended or unintended racism; this is already true. There is already controversy surrounding the movie. Hopefully the day will come (soon) when ALL races will be seen in kid’s movies. As a mother of mixed race children, I am sad to see that this demographic is nowhere to be found in child media. It’s been said repeatedly that young children are better for seeing themselves in their toys and cartoons, the things they love to play and imagine with. Any mother would be concerned when their child (especially daughter) is unable to have that. In a way, that’s just as important as the most important world issues.

• Tinsmith
  Jun 7, 2008 at 8:58 am

  Ms. Laura’s comments are not acceptable. Even if she does not agree with the comments NOTHING gives her the right to mock another persons views by criticizing certain features about them. I find it extremely OFFENSIVE, that the only way she can attack Angelina is by making nasty comments about her tattoos! COME ON! That’s an old one. SHOULD I JUDGE BECAUSE YOU ARE A BLOND?? (No offense to blond readers- but people with prejudices can pick on anything)

• Mary Ann
  Jun 7, 2008 at 9:03 am

  Less than 24 hours since Sherry put this thread out there, and already there is 44 well thought out comments. Sherry, it appears that some how some way when you have an interesting thread going there is alot of response from highly intelligent people. Keep up the good work.

• angela
  Jun 7, 2008 at 9:48 am

  this is OT.

  i’ve already watched KFP an hour ago. it was hilarious. it’s a great family movie. i had a great laugh.

• charlie
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:01 am

  angela & all who saw KFP, I too watched KFP and had a great laugh. But I missed the scene after the credit, which I heard was good. Did you see it? If so, what was it?

• Deana Owens
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:19 am

  Angelina is a great woman. She is a, committed wife and fiercely protective mother. And there are many many women out there just like her and as we’ve read many women who feel the same as her. I think Angie is rolling her eyes at the fact that everything that comes out of her mouth is taken as the gospel and is dissected and debated. I think the reason that many of us respect and admire her is the fact that while she is an amazing Oscar winning actress, she is still a down to earth woman like the rest of us.
  Sherry, here in KY its hotter than Hades! I’ll trade you a little sunshine for some much needed wet stuff. :)
  Cheers!
  Deana

• Sherry
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:36 am

  Deana - Bah, no rain here in Montreal yet but we’re currently melting from the humidity. With humidity factored in, our temperatures are hitting 39C or 102F.

  Keep this great conversation going you guys. Meanwhile, if anyone needs me, I’ll be the one lying flat on the floor, sweating, sucking down water, and wishing our A/C units were already in.

• Ana
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:38 am

  Love you site Sherri but lets not forget that Disney is an American corporation, if Angelina really wants to keep Zahara’s culture alive for her she should invest in the beautiful stories and fables from her country of birth, Ethopia. There are lots of lovely stories books out there maybe not DVDs but there are beautiful african princesses she can read about, I know because I lived in Ethopia. I believe there are some books at Barnes & Noble. Princesses and fairytales don’t always have to come from Disney!

• irma
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:46 am

  I don’t know the lady who made AJ’s comment a big issue, I guess, because it was from Angie, she wants to be known, anything attached to Angie gets recognition of some sort. The lady is now famous, thanks to Angie.
  Just got back from watching KFP, my g-son loves it, can’t stop laughing. We watched the 10:50 am showing so it was really good because the next one people & specially the kids starts piling up. KFP is so funny, Angie’s voice as Tigress is so right to the character, I love to hear her voice so beautiful.Have to go out the house again, now my g-son wants to buy new play station game. BBL. God bless the Jolie-Pitt’s Family.

• Dapyro
  Jun 7, 2008 at 11:50 am

  I didn’t get to watch the footage of the woman who made the comments about Angie when I first commented but when did I was appalled. I was actually rather insulted. Laura represent a sector of people who clearly made a few stupid comments where she was. She clasified a person on thei past actions and the way a woman looks (the tattoes) She actually actually said that Angie’s comment was stupid, and her mentioning the Vials and tattooes… I was WTF does that have to do with race representation in children’s shows. The woman was in her early 20s when she did those. Laura was the one who came off sounding stupid. Yes she sounded like a woman who had issues with Angie from the offset. She did come off badly. Also I think the hosts were a bit surprised as they told her that the vial were the old Angie from the past and mentioned that others races had been represented but Laura actually sounded angry and a bit bitter which shocked me. Especially that last house comment. And the man who said when you are having a baby shouldn’t you focus on that annoyed me too. When you are pregnant the issues of your current children do not just get forgotten.

  All in all I think that whole segment belongs in a bin somewhere. Nothing of value was really said. The way she demeaned Angie shows that she either ignores Angie’s work or does not really have an eye on what is important as Angie and brad have both spoken about issues of great importance, including refugees and the right to a child being educated regardless of where they are. Angie has a clear understanding of what is important to her family and just because a black male is a nominee for president it does not mean the race issues and everything else is gone..

  I will now put my soap box, and step away lol.

• dhc
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:02 pm

  First of all the Fox News people all look like idiots. Why bring up Angelina’s comment at all if it was not important. They were using it to gossip! I did see a tape of Angelina talking about her involvement in animated movies, wherein she mentioned the need for a black princess. She was referring to her reasons for continuing in animation as a way of providing good messages to all kids including her African daughter. She was not being emphatic in any way. She was talking about why she loves to do animated films. Get a grip Laura whatsyourname, who clearly does not have children!

• bizarrogirl
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:36 pm

  I always think it’s a sham when people say, essentially, “You shouldn’t complain about that, there are much bigger problems!” Is there some magical priority list? Can we not address big and small problems at the same time? That’s absurd.

  And Disney is a big let down in a lot of ways. They’ve been SO slow to adapt to multiculturalism, feminism, whatever. No, they didn’t invent most of these characters, but they sure could have given them a better brush up.

  I’ve listened to L. Ingraham on the radio and find her infuriating, so I didn’t even bother to watch the video.

  Good post, Sherry.

• kat
  Jun 7, 2008 at 12:53 pm

  Ok this laura lady is really just because insulting. First of all people in this world actually make mistakes FYI. AJ was young and didn’t really know wut she was doing when she had those blood vials around her neck but i mean that was sooooo long ago and i think she has changed now that she has all these kids in her life. Second of all so wut if AJ has tattoos across her back and her arms…she is not the only one in this world and those tattoos actually mean something to her.Third of all AJ is a truly caring person. She wouldn’t be helping charitys if she weren’t. Laura should be happy that AJ is helping the poor. Laura needs to focus on all the things AJ is doing for this world rather than focusing on her blood vitals and her tattoos. And so wut if AJ wants to have more african princesses because AJ is right.

  Now that is just my opinion.

• Rhonea
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm

  First off, anyone who doesn’t feel that Disney needs to add an African-American Princess to their line up maybe insensitived, a bit racist or living in a cave somewhere. Yes those fairy tales did not originate with Disney, but Disney takes artistic liberty with all of their other films, why not now? I’m happy for my Black toddler daughters about the Frog Princess set for next year’s release, but it’s sad that Disney waited so long. I mean are they dinosaurs? We have a Black male or biracial male running for president of the country. I do give kudos to Disney for casting Brandy and Whitney Houston in Cinderella in the ’90’s but let’s face it, the media is positively saturated with images of the animated very Nordic-looking Princesses, except for Jasmine, Pocahontas and Mulan. It seems as if Disney has avoided drawing Black animated characters purposely. Media including Disney does have influence on young children whether we like to admit it or not. When they did do a Black African film, the characters were animals. It was well done and cinematically beautiful. But I didn’t know whether to be happy or insuled. The irony is that Lion King is Disney’s highest-grossing non-CGI film! The general public, not just Blacks are sending a message. We want to see color on the screen! We want to see reality on the screen!

• Karen
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:13 pm

  Okay, of ALL the comments that celebrities say, why do they need to pick on Angie on princesses that have NO relevance to ANYTHING that they were talking about?

• BlessBrangelina
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:47 pm

  Great points everyone.

  Seriously Fox news is so out of touch it’s laughable.

  What has the discussion of race in politics to do with what Angie said. She wasn’t making a statement based on the political climate.

  She expressed a Mother’s wish that’s all!

  @Rhonea
  You are right and I think The Lion King (screen & Stageshow), probably had a lot to do with Disney’s decision to make The Frog Princess.

  It seems that Angie isn’t allowed opinions!

• ange
  Jun 7, 2008 at 1:56 pm

  this laura lady is stupid ^_^

• happyforthem
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:07 pm

  It is so time for this country to get beyond color lines - we’re hoping for Obama to be our next president! I believe AJ is right on once again to point to the obvious and get huge response for doing so. I hope JPs endorse Obama in a huge way, and really get this fight out of the American people.

• irma
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:12 pm

  I’m back, I ended up buying a Kung Fu Panda play station game and a book for my g-son , I spoiled him & at the same time hlep KFP earn some extra money too.
  Dapyro, ITA with you. God bless the Jolie-Pitt’s Family.

• mizzy
  Jun 7, 2008 at 2:58 pm

  I have not read all of the comments. Angelina has a point, but Disney will have a Black Princess named Maddie in the upcoming years.

• AYC
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:26 pm

  If anyone was serious about their daughters having role models, they would not be letting them watch Disney Princesses. Come on — a Disney Princess?? The young sexualized costumes themselves are the first turn-off for me; the second is the whole Princess mentality. Sorry, I want a bit more for my kids, both boys and girls, than Disney offers.

• anonymous
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:52 pm

  I believe that the color (or species for that matter) of the Disney cartoon characters has purely been based on the origin of the stories. For example, all the early Disney movies were based on European fairy tales, and those characters would not be African. Disney has made non-anglo movies: Aladdin, Lilo&Stitch, Etc. Angelina’s concern should be multi-culturalism, Disney telling more international stories. We’re all sick of this racial “bean-counting” as Ingraham put it!

• c
  Jun 7, 2008 at 3:57 pm

  Why must every thing turns into a racial complaint? I doubt that was AJ’s intention if she did make the comment.

  I would never expect the Chinese producers to make movie with white or black or blue princess just to appease these minorities in China. After all, he has every right to earn his profit and surely he would earn less with these minorities as target audiences than his own people.

  Perhaps the black rich of HW should put money into a cartoon movie with black princess, prince or king for the black children instead of churning out gangster rap music, gangster movies etc. Alas, such music and movies don’t bring them huge profit so they are content with complaint.

  As for this Laura, she is using AJ for her own monetary profit. By ripping AJ she stirs people into talking thereby enhance her media presence which translates into more money into her bank account.

  Our has become a society where one must constantly watch one’s mouth lest being labeled racist, socially incorrect. Frankly, it ruins the joy of living.

  And for the record, I am Asian, not white.

• Lara
  Jun 7, 2008 at 4:34 pm

  God, I saw the video and I got the feeling that the woman was waiting for an occasion to release all that crap agains angie. It’s like she was holding something back for a long time and now she got the chance to spit it all! She is absolutely ridiculous and offtopic. I can’t believe someone can be so stupid and out of line. First of all, what the tatoos, the blood vial (which actually was a pressed flower with a drop of blod, but then again the media…) and the rented house have to do with Disney and black princesses?!? That’s why I said that she seemed to hold something back. because as soon as she began to answer the question she shifted from disney to blood vials, tatoos and all other stuff! And they made a big deal out of nothing. Angelina was just answering a question from a mother’s point of view. Does this mean that she doesn’t focus on the world’s bigger problem? NO! If anyone knows about that and gets involved as much as she can and more, is angelina. So laura’s comments were really outrageing! At least for me. And what that guy said, that Angie should now focus on her unborn children, simply shocked me. I didn’t know that when you are pregnant, your other children dissapear…
  But then again, can angelina sneeze without comments??? guess not

• Mary Ann
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:09 pm

  I also just watched the video this morning and my feeling is that Ms. Ingraham does not give two hoots about black princesses. She just wants a chance to show her hatred towards Angelina.

• Wim
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm

  I can somewhat see the point of not dropping any black princesses into Disney films.

  When Walt Disney first started publishing animated movies, he did so in the 1940’s. Mostly using themes from fairy tales that have been around for centuries.

  Now really, these days, who knows what a princess is supposed to be like ?
  Grown ups do, they’ve been trough history classes and may have learned about all the great European monarchies, which were all predominantly white, but monarchies are just another species dying out.

  Now we all know princesses are supposed to be rich and live in castles and meet princes on white horses etc…

  With a few exceptions, the majority of rich black people live in the United States of America which hasn’t seen a monarchy in it’s entire existence.

  I’m all for black characters in cartoons, but to put it frankly, princesses are getting old, and do we really need to teach our kids about how rich snobs live ?
  Do you want to fill the minds of black children with hopes and dreams of a status they might never achieve, let along conceive ?
  Princesses and all that goes with them, knights, dragons, bandits, thieves, castles, they all belong to the European heritage. They belong mostly to white people.

  With a few exceptions, history doesn’t know of any black princesses, the way they are usually put forward.

  Sure, there are African princesses, but they don’t live in the kind of castles surrounded by water, having bridges and dungeons and tall towers, solid walls, guards armed with scabbards, spears and swords, etc…

  If they’ve got to introduce black characters into cartoons, which I believe is indeed a good idea, then make them black characters. Don’t just take a white character out of a white world and turn it black. Make the story, the background, the live, the history and future black too. So black kids can relate to it just like their white counterparts have been doing for centuries.

  In the same way that watching white princesses teaches black kids about white people’s heritage, stories about black people in their natural habitat will teach white kids a bit more about the past of black people. It should all help to bring both cultures closer together.
  Maybe what Disney should do first, if they don’t do already, is hiring more black people to write the stories and draw the animations, perhaps then we might indeed see a bit more cartoons and movies coming out that are geared towards black children and will tell them something about where they come from, how they became who they are now.

• Randi
  Jun 7, 2008 at 5:52 pm

  Disney’s new movie - The Princess and the Frog, stars a black woman named Princess Tiana and will be set in New Orleans. You can see a pic of her here:

  http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2805175808/tt0780521

• anita
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:40 pm

  what the @#$#%is wrong with that laura chick is she really that jealous because she should be even though angelina has tatoos and yes she wore a bottle of blood around her neck but she will always be more of a woman then that ugly #$%%#so they should just throw a bag around that Laura lady’s ugly face

• anita
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:43 pm

  celeb watcher get a life, that shick is just plainly over flowing with jealousy, angelina is just thinking of her daughters fereling about her lil’girl

• le
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:48 pm

  This women on show is WRONG.

  I see in Angelina’ comment that she is a king of person who care about equal betwen race.

  I hope that women on show will grow up to be a better person, and will make public apologize to Angelina.

  We just saw Kung Fu Panda few hours ago. We love it. It was so funny.

• brandie
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:55 pm

  I minored in Child Development Psychology. At this age, children begin to develop thoughts and develop imaginary friends. Dolls/toys are stimulus for a child’s mental & social behavorial development. Ms “whatever her name is” is clueless about child development.

• brandie
  Jun 7, 2008 at 6:59 pm

  Sherry,

  My comment is under moderation? It about child development psyshology, and Z falls into the develping stage.

• Rob
  Jun 7, 2008 at 7:33 pm

  Who cares, They are gonna make 15 million for baby pics, this world is nuts.

• ligaya
  Jun 7, 2008 at 9:14 pm

  WOW! Thank you all for your wisdom (except celebwatcher - I don’t agree with you at all, and your notion of race relations in the U.S. makes my head spin). Thanks so much for this thread, Sherry. I was working & yesterday was my KFP orgy day, so today was the first chance I had to read everyone’s posts.

  Laura Ingraham has one thing in common with Angelina Jolie – Ingraham is adopting a young Guatemalan girl. Otherwise, they’re complete opposites. Ingraham is a right-wing ideologue like Ann Coulter & Rush Limbaugh – which is why I ignore her. (Wikipedia, http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/87236/?page=entirehttp://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/87236/?page=entire) She’s the official guest host of The O’Reilly Factor, and author of The Hillary Trap: Looking for Power in All the Wrong Places, and Shut Up & Sing: How Elites from Hollywood, Politics, and the U.N. are Subverting America. When she was editor of the Dartmouth Review, she secretly sent a reporter with a tape recorder to a campus gay students association meeting; she then outed the students in print and sent tapes of the meetings to the students’ parents.

  She joined a conservative group called Independent Women’s Forum that testified in Congress for defunding the Violence Against Women Act and against affirmative action. There’s also no love lost between Ingraham and Europeans, who she believes fail to understand and appreciate America’s love for “God, guns and the death penalty.”

• ligaya
  Jun 7, 2008 at 9:20 pm

  OK, ridiculous - my 17-word sentence is under mod.

• Kari
  Jun 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm

  OK I just watched that video. Unbelievable. It’s like these people have never heard of the arguments in favor of affirmative action or something. They are expressing the same type of view that many conservative white people used to use pre-affirmative action ! Fox news has neanderthals speaking on its channels !
  Also notice the incredibly flawed logic of this Laura woman: She suggests that because Obama will be running for president, the racial issue is o-v-e-r.
  I think Fox news needs to be shut down or go out of business NOW.

• Neela
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:01 pm

  this is the first time i’m commenting in a long time …

  i didn’t bother watching the vid, but i just think it’s ridiculous for laura to criticize angie about a simple opinion that many others share. for the most part, it is really just laughable. and for her to say that there are better things to worry about than to state a valid opinion is plain stupid. she should take her own advice. aren’t there better things to worry about than nitpick on a celebrity’s views, past actions, physical appearance, lifestyle, etc.??? laura’s a hypocrite. and hypocrites like her just shouldn’t be taken seriously.

• Lucy
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:23 pm

  Hello Sherry and all the fans of Angie. I guess I am the 81st comment. BTW, the weather in California is great this weekend, in the 80’s and sunny. I went to see KFP this afternoon with my husband. Very funny esp. for kids. I was disappointed, the theater did not show the CCOBB trailer so I can see Shiloh. Anyway, I don’t watch FOX NEWS because I don’t really care for any of their newscasters. I don’t even watch AI because Ryan Seacrest is an Anti-Angie idiot. The only show I saw was when Brad appeared for 5 minutes in one of the segment special. Other than that, I don’t care for them. The shows to avoid is also, Ryan and DePandi’s showbiz news and the Daily 10. These “so-called” entertainment newscasters are ganging up on Angelina Jolie and living in the past. They somehow want to attack Angie when she was in her young wild years. Funny thing, they don’t attack Brad. I would think they will not forgive him for falling in love with Angie. You now what, they want publicity and attention and they want to get it by feeding on “negative feedback.” I don’t know who this Laura is because she is unethical to begin with. I don’t even want to see her video.

• Neela
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:35 pm

  many on here have valid points … i just think some get carried away with some pretty sanctimonious opinions. btw, nothing wrong with some of disney’s so-called sexualized characters. many grew up watching those characters and turned out to be understanding, amazing, intelligent people, who have a strong sense of free will, who were not swayed by the “sexualized” messages but rather, were swept into the fantasy, the story those characters live in. and disney has tried to create some strong female figures, like mulan, who, compared to the other female disney characters, is anything but sexy. even before disney came along, i think children (people in general) in many cultures (not all) have always had an idea of princes and princesses as being beautiful and fit or even sexy. it’d be nice if people imagined princesses as rotund. heh. but let’s be realistic. even if children are precluded from exposure to disney’s “sexualized” princesses, image and idea of sex will not stop there. children will continue to encounter them everywhere else because our media is cluttered with them … be it in print or tv.

  and it’s true, children should find their heroes in real beings, but realistically, children are children. they like their tv, toys, kid movies, etc.

  anyway, angie’s opinion is shared by many. i usedto ask it, too, till i found out about the new black princess. and of course, there are others that oppose angie’s views, and i think others do just because the stance came from angie. but seriously, it is just one famous celeb’s opinion that was blown out of proportion by an ultra-conservative who really should be thinking and worrying about bigger problems in the world rather than ripping into that celeb’s past, lifestyle, actions, body art, etc. like i said, laura’s a hypocrite.

• Sandra
  Jun 7, 2008 at 10:53 pm

  I haven’t taken time to read everyone’s comments, so the following may have been mentioned already. My apologies if I do, in fact, repeat what others have already shared…

  Apparently, Disney is developing a princess character that is dark-skinned; I think her background is due to be Creole. This will be a positive step toward providing all little girls with a more diverse sense of what is beautiful. Certainly, it will be nice for dark-skinned little ones to see a beautiful princess who more closely resembles them.

  I believe these “small things” matter greatly. It is true that there are very important issues facing the world; ultimately, a series of small strides lead to great gains.

  Anyway, the “little things” matter to us moms.

• Dapyro
  Jun 7, 2008 at 11:56 pm

  Rob yes his world is nuts that pictures of children will bring that much, however the way the media is now the babies would have a bounty on their heads until the picture is taken and the photographer will be the only person who would benefit of taking advantage of new born babies. At least this way they can have some control over the profits of the picture. Brad did say after the picture of Brad, Angie and Maddox in Africa that he could have found so many charitable uses for money like that and they did donate the proceeds for pictures of Shiloh to charity and will do so for these as well.

• Celeb watcher
  Jun 8, 2008 at 12:18 am

  Biggest Fan,
  No, I am not African American, and yes, I have been to Disney World and Disney Land. I know there are basically no black characters (unless you count Mickey and Minnie, but they have white faces) in the Disney genre, which is surprising. However, I’m trying to keep the bigger picture in mind here. While it may be comforting to see black, white, hispanic, native American, or asian characters, demanding that they be there (which I understand you aren’t doing, nor is Angelina) tends to emphasize our differences over our similarities. Should they have characters with darker skin pigment? I have no problem with that at all - as long as it isn’t for the purpose of having their “token black” character (which I am afraid it would be with someone like Angelina making a big deal about there not being a black character). In other words, it would be more of a politically correct concession rather than a true celebration of another aspect of humanity.

  I also still agree with Laura that Angelina’s time is better spent focussing on things other than Disney. She does a lot of humanitarian things, which is good. Focussing on something like Disney may have a tendency to make others think of her less seriously (something that she as an actress no doubt already gets).

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 1:38 am

  I’m Filipina-American/Asian-American & I don’t agree with “C” & others who think race is no big thing. Yes, it’s uncomfortable to talk about it, but we won’t make more progress if we bury our heads in the sand. We’ve made huge strides since the Civil Rights era of the 1960s, and everyone who is a woman, person of color – black/brown/red/yellow, lesbian/gay, & disabled owes a debt to the early pioneers of the 1960-1970s for striking down most discrimination and giving us opportunities for good education, good jobs, good living spaces, justice & more.

  The movie “21” is a true story of Asian American students at MIT, but the lead actor was white as was most of the team actors. “Dangerous Minds” is a true story of a black female Marine who turned her students around, but starred Michelle Pfeiffer (love her, btw). And what does it say that it’s taken until now to have a serious woman & serious black presidential candidates?

• Gab
  Jun 8, 2008 at 1:42 am

  I think that all the people on that show were trying to make something out of nothing. Angelina has the right to say what she said because IT’S TRUE. But Ingraham and all those other schmucks don’t need to tear into her past and her personal choices, and pretty much accuse her of not knowing anything about politics and race relations. Considering all her work and actual participation in global race relations, I think Angelina is perfectly aware of the current political climate. Those Fox News idiots just wanted to use Angelina’s name to grab some attention.

• Rachael
  Jun 8, 2008 at 1:49 am

  What a lot of crap! So what!!! We all make comments regarding our children and what they are into etc, sad that such a meal has to be made out of a simple comment. Shame!!!

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 2:03 am

  When I entered college in 1970, I learned of a very famous experiment conducted in the 1960s or 1950s. Black children were given a choice of picking a black doll or white one. The dolls were identical except for skin color. The results were shocking, with almost all children choosing the while dolls because they were more desirable.

  What damage to those children’s psyches & self-esteem. In my studies since & in my work in counseling, studies have shown that if a child – or teen/adult for that matter – doesn’t see herself reflected in school books, tv/movies, magazines, news media, pop culture, toys and adults who look like them who are leaders in various ways – they feel invisible, worthless & invalidated.

• angela
  Jun 8, 2008 at 2:29 am

  charlie, i didn’t see it too. i didn’t know. i immediately left after their names with their characters was flashed. now i wonder what was it?!…

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 2:29 am

  I’m glad Disney’s working on the Princess & the Frog, and that it’s set in New Orleans in the Jazz Age. I’m really looking forward to it. I’m also glad they changed the character from a chambermaid named Maddy to Princess Tiana.

  I can’t see the Disney princesses as sexualized – not like the Bratz dolls. In the 1970s, we worked to expose Barbie’s sexualization – after all, it was modeled after a German sex doll – and its totally unrealistic body image. Over time, Barbie changed (body proportions still intact) with African American, Asian American, Latino, Native American & disabled Barbies. She also became a pilot & astronaut, not just a flight attendant, doctor, not just a nurse, and various occupations.

  American Girl also has diverse multicultural dolls and disabled dolls.

• iam
  Jun 8, 2008 at 2:45 am

  what the heck does this woman is talking about? the she even have kids? i don’t know her but basing on how she commented on AJ, i think she’s a st*pid and judgemental host. and how dare her to comment like the vial and tatoo stuff and the $40 million dollars house? that was just sick. AJ is a family oriented woman and would rather care about the needs and wants of her kids than to worry about who to vote (in which she still has 6 mos. time to think).

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 8:18 am

  KFP is rated an excellent 85% by rottentomatoes.

  http://news.fantasymoguls.com/originalcontent/2008/06/early-friday-3.html

  KFP, the first big animated movie of the summer grabbed an estimated $17.75M on Friday. It surged 17% Saturday (usually movies drop on Saturdays) for a $23.4 million 2nd day. With a standard 25% drop on Sunday, KFP will finish with a better than expected $60.95 for its 1st weekend and be #1 . Even more impressive is that KFP is #4 in the All-Time Top 10 Openings for a Non-Sequel Animated Film.

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 8:26 am

  There is a scene at the end of the closing credits that’s an essential part of the movie. But I don’t want to spoil it for anyone who hasn’t seen KFP yet. Nowadays, lots of movies show things at the very end - outtakes, etc., that makes it worth it to wait through the closing credits.

  And the animated background of the ending credits continues Po’s story too.

• legs
  Jun 8, 2008 at 8:41 am

  ok, thanks ligaya.
  now i guess i have to watch it again - which i don’t mind. :)

• charlie
  Jun 8, 2008 at 9:45 am

  angela, I went back and saw the end. It was cute, but I shouldn’t say what it was for I don’t want to spoil it for others. There were too many names to credit; thus, it took long time. By the time I finally got to see, there were no one left in the theatre but me.

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 9:52 am

  I agree with the post that said this doesn’t have to be an “either/or” matter. In my half-century plus life so far, I’ve found things to be both simple & complicated, nuanced, layered & superficial without one solution fitting everyone for every instance.

  I can love my children and care (in all its definitions) for them and still care about my community, my country, and the world. Don’t we all do that? Doesn’t everyone say that children are the most important in life because they’re our future – the future of the world? Don ‘t politicians, religious leaders & others always say we should “remember the children & do it for the children?”

  And about Angelina – I think people will admire her for being culturally aware & sensitive to her children. Most people have already made up their minds about Angie. Some are in the middle, but most either hate her like Ingraham or love her, like we do. We know her worth & value, and the others won’t ever take her seriously anyway.

• susan
  Jun 8, 2008 at 11:26 am

  All I pull away from this is how sad modern news has become. When a casual comment by a celebrity becomes a topic of debate on a news network, it is a sad day indeed. Personally, I feel that too much was made of this situation. Who cares if Angelina made a comment about Disney characters and race? It is her opinion and this topic wasn’t even worth a news blib. When we continue to have war, poverty, hunger and disease, I really could care less about a celeb comment on fictional animated characters. For Fox News to create a debate on something so innocent and completely non-controversial shows how they categorize real topics versus non-topics. If Angelina’s comments on a Disney character make the headlines, then I can only say I will turn the TV off and rely on online news for the real headlines. Fox needs to get back to the real stories and lay off the celeb blurbs. It isn’t news!!

• kit
  Jun 8, 2008 at 12:50 pm

  Three words: Fox network: Bleh

• Mary Ann
  Jun 8, 2008 at 1:03 pm

  Celeb Watcher, I don’t believe that Angelina’s focus was on this subject. She was probably asked a Mom type question and that was her answer. I hardly think she is going to go with a picket sign and stand in front of Disney’s Corp. building.

• Mary Ann
  Jun 8, 2008 at 1:09 pm

  Angelina is doing alot of resting right now, and if she was to surf around on the computer and came across Pittwatch, started reading this thread and others before this one I think that she would be real impressed with all the intelligent and thoughtful comments.

• ligaya
  Jun 8, 2008 at 7:02 pm

  We see the link between the body images popularized by women’s magazines, fashion runways & Hollywood with the epidemic of anorexia, bulimia & morbid obesity. When Asian/Asian American women have eye surgery so their eyes are like whites’ eyes, and they & black women like Janet Jackson & Patti Labelle have nose surgery so their noses look more like white noses, I think the connection between that and poor self-image, self-hatred & internalized racism is easy to see.

  Yes, real women & men are the best role models, and popular culture like the Disney princess toys are important too. Sandra Day O’Connor as the first woman Supreme Court Justice and Nancy Pelosi as the first woman House Speaker are important role models. And so was Lt. Uhura, the first black woman in space. She was part of Star Trek’s multicultural crew with Vulcans, Asians, Russians, etc. Lt. Mae Jamison, the first real black woman in space, credits Lt. Uhura with inspiring her to become an astronaut. And when NASA found out that Nichelle Nichols, the actress playing Uhura, was planning to leave the show, they told her she was their best recruiter for women & minorities into the space program, and asked her to stay on the show. And she still inspires people today.

• Rulani
  Jun 8, 2008 at 10:00 pm

  For starters I am an African from Zimbabwe and my little one is two next week. I watched Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Princess and the Pea, Little Mermaid etc (am 27) and was also plagued with the question as to why there werent any African princesses and now wonder how I if I should answer my daughter’s question abt the colour of these characters like how my mom did.Someone wrote that historically people in the US have been taught of only European monarchies but all around the world monarchies have existed. We have so many princesses in our country not to mention South Africa,Botswana, etc so it really isnt an excuse as to why Disney hasnt any reflected. Also the lady who wrote abt Black Americans churning out hip hop and gangsta rap etc how many of those record labels reporting and making staggering profits are owned and managed by the Black community. It is ludicrous for Americans to believe that its not always abt race ..its like South Africans saying that apartheid is dead and buried!

• Rulani
  Jun 8, 2008 at 10:01 pm

  oh yah i forgot i love your site Sherry and am a huge angelina fan pre and post brad!

• Celeb watcher
  Jun 8, 2008 at 10:06 pm

  Susan,
  Celebrity Blurbs is what sells. I used to like Fox because it really did provide a chance for both sides to air their views. Now, it is just Tabloid TV. I agree, it is sad that this is what is being seen as what is important.

• Neela
  Jun 8, 2008 at 10:18 pm

  Amen, Susan!

• BlessBrangelina
  Jun 9, 2008 at 1:40 am

  Amen to you all!

  @MaryAnn

  That’s what happened. It was in Cannes apparently! A second set of interviews set it up by Dreamworks, because the press complained that they were not all able to attend the press conf!

  From the article I read she was asked about her children enjoying the movie. She answered affirmative and added that they love Disney, her daughters were into the Princesses. She then said she wished they was an African princess for Zee to relate to. From a Mother who wants her children to feel confident in who they are, that’s not a bad thing to wish for. Child Development & Psychology 101 as pointed out by Ligaya.

  The article generated a lot of discussion on the other board, because the language didn’t sound Angie-like to some. So it’s possible she is being slain, tarred and feathered by this Fox news woman for something she did not do.

  But hey that’s the JPs life!

• BlessBrangelina
  Jun 9, 2008 at 1:48 am

  @Rob

  $15m figure is what the tabs are throwing around, Brad and Angie have not encouraged this. Shiloh’s pics like someone said earlier was done to remove the bounty from her head! Brad and Angie did NOT handle the selling OR the money. Getty Images did, and they forwarded the money to the designated charities directly.

  I remember some magazines saying she would sell the “bump pics and confirmation”. Guess what Rob, SHE HASN’T! They say these things to generate negative reactions, and it seems to be working.

• June
  Jun 9, 2008 at 1:52 am

  Personally, I could care less about taking a comment from an actress and making it so important. I am African American and I will tell you that regardless of how important the world feels this woman is, Ms. Jolie is not a god and her opinions should not hold such importance. Our race has found ways to educate our children without relying on whether there is a black princess in any of Disney films. I thought this woman wanted a rainbow family and had the maturity level to understand that in this society there is discrimination and not ever race is represented equally. I also doubt that just because Ms. Jolie has now become enlightened because she has a black child that the world will suddenly realize this default and change due to her popularity and importance.

• BlessBrangelina
  Jun 9, 2008 at 2:10 am

  @June

  Well you are here! Why?

  Nobody, least of all Angie, said that just because she expressed a wish it should immediately become law!

  The people who made an issue out of an innocent sentence, at the end of a long paragraph, are Fox news! Please go and tell them to go back to school. Because they failed in this respect.

  As an African American you should ask your parents, why, they felt the need read you books with black characters? Not only as co-characters but as main characters. This “being able” to associate and emulate is an important part of a child’s development. Look it up!

  Yes there are other ways to help her children do that, but you know what her children enjoy Disney. Just as you are entitled to your opinion and wishes, she is too!

• Neela
  Jun 9, 2008 at 4:38 am

  june, i see some of your points, but when angie made that simple statement, i don’t think she set out to change the world’s view about race and discrimination, and i doubt she was using her popularity to create that change. i think that opinion was more out of concern for her children, not necessarily society. and the point is, it was a simple opinion that others have also shared and still do. it’s just an opinion, a simple thought. nothing more, nothing less. so, there is no need for anybody to make such a fuss over it.

  i’m sure she’s trying to raise her children to be color blind but at the same time, allow them to also treasure the beauty of their individual race, culture, etc. that’s just my take on it. i can’t quite relate because i don’t have a multi-racial family, much less children of my own. i just imagine she’s just trying to be the best mother she can be, and really, i think it’s hard to say what’s the right and wrong way of parenting on something like this, especially when one is raising children of different races. i think everyone has a certain idea of how to raise their children the proper way w/ regards to race and such. i don’t think we’ll all agree 100%, not even parents/guardians/adults that share the same background would probably practice the same approach or have the same stance. for example, there are at least two of you on here that are african americans and even the two of you have dissenting views or takes on angie’s statement. what matters most is that in the end, regardless of their parents’ occupation, fame and views and regardless of the persistence of discrimination, angie’s children will grow up loving the human race, that while they can appreciate the richness of their individual heritage, they will see and treat everyone as equal. and if they grow up to be such outstanding individuals that embrace all races, all cultures, etc., then, brad and angie would’ve done something right as parents.

• Neela
  Jun 9, 2008 at 4:51 am

  btw, i think cesaria and a few others offered a pretty great explanation of the psychology of this topic … about children and relating to visual representations.

• BeeBee
  Jun 9, 2008 at 8:24 am

  june, obviously you do care other wise you wouldn’t be here .. And who said Angie is God .. Idiot like Fox only make me admire and repect Brangelina more.. Did you watch the way they talk.. they are a grown up people and yet they acted like a third grader wanting atentions and so envious and so jelous of Angie .. yes she is wanting a rainbow family and good for them and they are popular and more famous than some and she is trying to make a better world and help the poor and no the world not suddently relize this default but Fox who make Big deal out of it and that ugly women laura who is so hatefull and so full of envy and jelousy had to bring up Angie tatoo blood vile the new chateau for what..
  Why the hate.. what has Angelina ever did to them.. ?

• Sgirl
  Jun 9, 2008 at 8:45 am</