Angelina Jolie pushes The Envelope
I’m really enjoying the discussion post - as always, I have the best readers here at PittWatch because other than an occasional drive-by comment full of nothing but useless nasty snark (and luckily you don’t have to read it!), it’s been extremely civil even though not all of us agree with each other. Please come drop by and keep the conversation going!
In the meantime, here’s something a little more positive than the new issue of Vogue - how about the new issue of The Envelope with Angelina Jolie! Put out by the L.A. Times, The Envelope covers Angelina as a mother, mentions her humanitarian visit to Afghanistan, her work on Changeling, and her feelings on Hollywood vs. the rest of the world.
“I don’t dislike it here. I just really do love to travel. I love other cultures. And I love raising my kids in the world. I’m so fortunate that I get to do that.”
They also point out that being a celebrity is Angelina’s second job - after motherhood: “The center of my life is my kids.”
When asked about her role as Christine in Changeling, Angelina said:
“Christine fought so hard under such incredible circumstance for the rights of other women. It was a real story that I thought sent a positive message about what you can accomplish. About democracy in action.”
The Envelope says that it seems that she’s had a string of mother-centric roles lately, but Angelina said she thinks it’s got less to do with the fact that she’s a mother herself, and more to do with her age, and that once you get into your 30s there are more movie roles for women that revolve around family interactions.
(Still, right though she may be, I personally think that her incredible love of being a mother translates very well for her roles.)
If you aren’t in the Los Angeles area and can’t pick up your own issue of The Envelope you can read the article right here.
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38 opinions for Angelina Jolie pushes The Envelope
liliwaton
Nov 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm
angelina is a great woman and a great mom..she is such a wonderful person inside and out..she has become a changed woman and with a big heart and very compassionate..having a family made her a great person..
jussi
Nov 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm
not crazy about the pictures(but angelina was very tired coming up to this interview) and did any-else find the interview a bit short and not much new info?
angela
Nov 12, 2008 at 4:18 pm
is the cover photo the one you posted sherry? isn’t that from the KFP dvd release? anyway, i agree, angie having brad and the kids in her life change her a lot in a good way. god bless her and her family.
sumaya
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm
hi sherry
iam long time readimg first post.sherry just wanna to ask about what JA said with oprah she is using her x story She just wants to get more press time to make ppl talk about her new mv
RUBI
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:36 pm
hii
I always love how Angie express herself in her interviews.
Ligaya
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Jussi, I agree. In fact, I sent a letter to the editor:
Hmm, pretty insubstantial and disjointed article to back up such a large cover picture of Angelina Jolie – sure to drive up sales. I suppose the first paragraph was to differentiate the Times from other generally more complimentary accounts of Ms. Jolie. (Did the reporter fact-check about the publicist? Every other report I’ve read confirms that Ms. Jolie is the rare star who has no publicist.) Of course she has a manager and stylists, they are necessary to her work, just as pen and tape recorders are to reporters. Of course, Ms. Jolie was there to talk about Changeling - that’s in her contract as part of her job. Of course, the reporter was there to get the story on Changeling, and in particular to get it from Ms. Jolie as opposed to Mr. John Malkovich because she sells more newspapers. Let’s not pretend the reporter was doing Ms. Jolie any favors. If anything, it was the other way around.
Sherry
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Angela - no, that photo’s not from the cover, it is indeed a KFP red carpet picture. :)
While the article didn’t have much substance, I did really love the part where she said she had no idea what she was supposed to be doing when she was there to present the award to Clint. I can just picture someone who is sleep deprived and jet lagged standing around asking, “um, what? What do you want to me to do now?”
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neil
Nov 12, 2008 at 7:01 pm
I thought the same thing about the article and I was going to mention it at Just Jared but, you know, war and all…. Anyway it sounded to me like the LA Times were sucking on a lemon over the whole article: choice of photo and the interviewer sounded like he had a stick up his…
Caroline
Nov 12, 2008 at 7:46 pm
There is a new picture over at JJ of Angelina. She looks great as always but completely exhausted. She is obviously professionally made up, and you can see how bone tired she is. I think that makes me like her even more.
Neela
Nov 12, 2008 at 8:28 pm
This article was too short. I don’t mind, but the reporter/author just didn’t seem to care about writing the article. It was bleh.
Courtney
Nov 12, 2008 at 9:33 pm
LOVE ANGELINA SOOO MUCH!
Jennifer Aniston’s latest comments about Angelina Jolie are just SELFISH!
Cant Jen just see that Brad & Angelina obviously met for a reason!? Look at the beautiful loving family they now have together!! Jen should be content with her own life right now and happy that she still isnt married to a man who wasn’t in love with her anymore! Jen is acting childish and selfish in this vogue interview and the cover looks like a trashy star magazine quote! SHAME ON YOU JEN! YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS VERY “UNCOOL”!
I wish that Jen would just be happy for Brad’s beautiful new life and not go over the past in interviews over n over again.
Why cant Angelina talk about how she met the loving father of her six kids?
Totally lost respect for Aniston- who I have been a fan of for a while. It’s a real shame. I thought this stupid “war” was over!
LOVE JOLIE- always!
heaven
Nov 12, 2008 at 10:43 pm
i visited perezhilton.com and on page 5, he has some interesting article about Jen contradicting herself:
Vogue 2008:
* What really rankled Aniston about the piece was that Jolie felt the need to recount a detailed timeline of exactly how her relationship developed on the set of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, while Aniston was still married to and living with Pitt. “There was stuff printed there that was definitely from a time when I was unaware that it was happening,” says Aniston.
Vanity Fair 2005:
* “She wasn’t naïve,” says Aniston pal Kristin Hahn. “She’s not suggesting she didn’t know there was an enchantment, and a friendship [between Pitt and Jolie].”
* “I don’t think he started an affair physically, but I think he was attracted to her,” says Courteney Cox, who vacationed with her husband, David Arquette, and the Pitts on Anguilla just before they announced their separation. “There was a connection, and he was honest about that with Jen. Most of the time, when people are attracted to other people, they don’t tell. At least he was honest about it. It was an attraction that he fought for a period of time.”
Vogue 2007, Angelina Jolie’s actual quote:
* “Because of the film, we ended up being brought together to do all these crazy things, and I think we found this strange friendship and partnership that kind of just suddenly happened. I think a few months in I realized, ‘God, I can’t wait to get to work.’ … Anything we had to do with each other, we just found a lot of joy in it together and a lot of real teamwork. We just became kind of a pair.”
Vogue 2008:
* “Well, it never was that bad,” she says, knowing that it will be hard for a lot of people to believe. “I mean, look, it’s not like divorce is something that you go, ‘Oooh, I can’t wait to get divorced!’ It doesn’t feel like a tickle. But I’ve got to tell you, it’s so vague at this point, it’s so faraway in my mind, I can’t even remember the darkness. I mean, in the end, we really had an amicable split. It wasn’t mean and hateful and all of this stuff that they tried to create about Brad can’t talk to Jen and Jen can’t talk to Brad because this person won’t allow it. It just didn’t happen. The marriage didn’t work out. And pretty soon after we separated, we got on the phone and we had a long, long conversation with each other and said a lot of things, and ever since we’ve been unbelievably warm and respectful of each other. Whoever said everything has to be forever, that’s setting your hopes too high.
Vanity Fair 2005:
* “Am I lonely? Yes. Am I upset? Yes. Am I confused? Yes. Do I have my days when I’ve thrown a little pity party for myself? Absolutely.
* “I don’t feel like a victim,” she says. “I’ve worked with this therapist for a long time, and her major focus is that you get one day of being a victim—and that’s it. Then we take responsibility for our own input. To live in a victim place is pointing a finger at someone else, as if you have no control. Relationships are two people; everyone is accountable. A lot goes into a relationship coming together, and a lot goes into a relationship falling apart.
* “There’s a sensitivity chip that’s missing,” she says.
Vogue 2008:
* These days, the public fascination with her relationship with Vince Vaughn seems almost quaint. I ask her if there’s anything else to be said about that time. “I call Vince my defibrillator,” she says with genuine affection. “He literally brought me back to life
Vanity Fair 2005:
* When she arrived in Chicago to film The Break-Up, the gossip media, frantic for a new development, immediately plunged her into a torrid romance with her co-star, Vince Vaughn. This affair apparently does not exist.
* “I adore Vince Vaughn, but I’m not going out with Vince Vaughn,” she says. “I barely know the guy. We’ve exchanged a wine-and-cheese basket for the start of the movie, and we’ve gone out to dinner with the director and other people. We’ve got to get to know each other.”
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Frankie Lynn
Nov 13, 2008 at 12:44 am
MY GOD ppl get a grip Angelina and Brad are hot and do wonderful things for others!Angie keep ya head up huns ppl oneday will get theirs out the butt!
irma
Nov 13, 2008 at 2:13 am
Angie can do an interview photo shoot & still looking good & just be herself not made up or a pretense.God bless her & family.
BlessBrangelina
Nov 13, 2008 at 3:21 am
Am glad I didn’t buy it then. Thanks for the excerpts then, Sherry.
Kati
Nov 13, 2008 at 7:18 am
Great article. She does good interviews and this wasn´t an exception. She is a good mother and I think that she´ll quit acting very soon to be with her family. And hopefully Brad will do the same. They have enough money to never work again and they can support their children. Has anyone seen the cover of this week´s In Touch? I felt really sick when I read the cover yelling:”BRAD FEELS TRAPPED”. He loves his family and sure doesn´t feel trapped. Thank God they are on their way back to Germany so they don´t have to read that kind of c***! God bless the Jolie-Pitt family!
neer
Nov 13, 2008 at 7:22 am
Since Jennifer Aniston has the penchant to know or to monitor anything about Angelina Jolie, and even though there’s only a small chance she would be able to read this post, let me still address this message to her. Thus, the following paragraphs are in second person. Here it goes:
JA, of course you don’t know me & I don’tknow you in person but only your public persona. When I read your Vogue interview, I have heavy emotions that’s just waiting for an outlet ready to express my disgust in you. If before, I was only indifferent towards you, now I can’t help but dislike you so much due to your antics & machinations. Your silly & obvious acts of trying to manipulate public perception about you & AJ are beyond comprehension of any decent human being.
It annoys me so much for you to be doing what you did to AJ. How dare you to talk about her like that !!! AJ never said negative things about you. No side remarks from her. She’s never known to speak ill of others. You are so hypocritical to claim that how “uncool” she was with the statements she made almost 2 yrs ago which in fact was courteous & speaking for herself. AJ is not the kind of person who can be dictated by anybody to what to say or to do, moreso by you. If you feel the way you feel, why let the public know only now?? Is it because you needed to use her name desperately for the promotions of your up & coming movies? How shallow can you get, JA. By this Vogue interview, you obviously want to revive the stupid Team AJ & Team JA that you initiated in your pity party in the year 2005. How ironic can you get !!! During the U.S. Presidential campaign, you said you didn’t want to get involved with “catfights” between the two candidates, yet you are always instigating sort of “catfights” between you & AJ, with respective supporters. You want to always ride on AJ coattail to remain in the media publicity because you know fully well that it is fascinated with AJ while your popularity is waning or even vanishing & the media especially the reputable ones seem to prefer AJ as the years went by as your manipulations is gradually being exposed. Even you JA, you are fascinated by her, though you will never, ever admit it. With your behavior, it only shows AJ owns even you. You are fascinated everything about her. She’s everything you wish you wanted to be, in the same status, positon & success of AJ. Unfortunately, you are not !!! You envy her success so much in terms of life, love, family, charity work & career. Hence, you want to destroy her. JA, in order to have these, you have to work hard and not step on other’s toes. Don’t find fault or put the blame on others to whatever failures you have in life. AJ also had failures in the past but she embraced them. She owned up what she did in the past. She didn’t look for scapegoats. However, cheating is not what she will never apologize for as she never, never did it. As what she said, she’s not gonna defend herself and convince people that she’s a decent person.
Also, you always want to give the impression to the public that AJ is the reason of your marriage failure. You want to hide the reasons why your marriage didn’t work out. You want the public to believe by deceiving them that everything was bed of roses with Brad until AJ came along. Oh JA, you want AJ to be the antagonist when in fact she’s not part of your marriage which has a weak foundation in the first place. AJ is only the EFFECT of that failure, NOT THE CAUSE OF IT. Sure, AJ & Brad were excited to work during MAMS filming. It was because they formed an emotional bond together. They felt attraction but never acted on it until your divorce was already filed.
Anothing thing JA, do you always use “slang” phrases or words during conversations? It is just odd or unusual for a person nearing 40 years of age to speak like this especially during serious conversations or interviews. That’s one of the many major things that AJ differ from you. Every interview she had, her response is always inspiring, deep & not explained in “slang” phrases. Her vocabulary is not limited.
This is the first time I write a very lengthy post. I’m just doing this to release my pent up annoyance to somebody. Now, I’ll let my computer rest for a while & do some other productive thing. Peace.
jussi
Nov 13, 2008 at 7:41 am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7725278.stm
new angelina inteview with the BBC. done around october 4th/ 5th in new york
jussi
Nov 13, 2008 at 8:00 am
for any u.k fans of angelina, there will be an interview with angelina on the simon mayo radio show on BBC FIVE LIVE between 2p.m and 4p.m. i am not sure if the interview is a pre-recorded one, or if angelina will be live on the show. if angelina is live on the show, i think either the jolie-pitts have flown to england on their way to berlin or she might be interviewed from berlin.
mélodie
Nov 13, 2008 at 8:06 am
love JA, love AJ, love Brad and their family. you have to understand that some people here like too JA so, please, stop saying bad things about her! you dislike when we say bad things about angie, so, don’t do the same thing with Jen! thanks
i just want to give you this one: http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jennifer-aniston-tells-oprah-feels-like-i-was-married-100-years-ago
you have to remove your blinkers and see that this woman had move on and is happy for brad!!!!!!!! why do you always see the bad side???? you read “angelina is very uncool” but you don’t want to see “i’m very happy for brad and angelina” or “i feel like this relation happened 100years ago”???????????????????????
mélodie
Nov 13, 2008 at 8:14 am
i cannot understand why you dislike JA so much, i mean, she was Brad’s wife, they were happy during a few years togheter, she never said bad things about brad after their divorce, she never criticizes brad and angie, she never hurt angie, she only said that it was “uncool” (it’s not like she said insults about her): i think i wouldn’t love to know that the new wife of my ex-husband “can’t wait to go to work” to be with him in a time when we were still married! (and i would too find it’s very uncool if she said it to the entire world! it’s a little bit humiliating for Jen, even if i’m sure angie didn’t want to hurt Jen when she said it!)
you know, you don’t have to be afraid, jen doesn’t want brad to come with her, she’s not a youngster, she knows that brad and angie are so much in love, that they have kids!
i don’t why i say all that things, maybe because i dislike injustice and i find that the way some of you consider jen is injust.
mélodie
Nov 13, 2008 at 8:23 am
heaven: your comparison between “jennifer”’s quote has no sense: you can’t compare something SHE said with something a SOURCE said, that naturally don’t say the same things!!!! so Jen is not a liar!
you know, it’s the same thing as if you believed the “source” who said that when they were in holiday in France during the 2007 summer, angie cast a glas of wine on brad’s face!
you have to be more careful!
i just to say that i don’t prefer jen, even if i defend her a lot in my post! my number one still angie!
mélodie
Nov 13, 2008 at 9:03 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n5-ZEfWi0Y
i just want to share this video with you, it’s my favourite! it’ll remember us how brad and angie are perfect togheter and too all the bad things who were said on angie in the past, maybe it’ll help us to be more indulgent with JA…
Ella
Nov 13, 2008 at 1:53 pm
I think Aniston has a lot of growing up to do, which is amazing due to the fact that she is almost 40 years old. This smacks of highschool idiocy. She needs to move on and stop using Angelina to garnish sympathy for herself. Jeez, it’s been three years and several boyfriends later for her.
Victoria
Nov 13, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Sherry, why do you let really hateful, spiteful posts on JA come through? I won´t even go into any details anymore about how stupid they are, and how hypocritical (i.e. our Angie is praised for being candid and open, but JA should shut the **** up and never express her feelings). I´m sure Angie and Brad would hate to read these spiteful comments. I thought we don´t want h8ters here. But we have them, more than I thought. I´m a big fan of Brad and Angie, but this is really spoiling this site for me. And it wasn´t just this thread, this subject keeps coming up, and if it´s not hatred, then it´s passive-aggressiveness. I think those posters will know who I mean..Luckily we have people out here like Mélodie who, despite being a huge Brad and Angie fan, has lots of intelligent and sympathetic things to say about a woman who was once a great love of Brad´s. The way some people make JA out to be, they must really hate Brad, too, because how could he ever have been with such a terrible woman for so long, if he isn´t terrible in some way, too? (and of course the h8ters will now say that Angie changed him….hahaha….rolling my eyes!).
mélodie
Nov 14, 2008 at 1:35 am
victoria: thank you sooo much for your comment! i had the feeling everybody was against me!!!! so i’m so happy to see that you share my opinion (even if i know you’re not the only one)
Ligaya
Nov 14, 2008 at 7:32 am
Melodie, I’m not against you, I love you! I think you’re charming, and it’s fine with me if you’re a great fan of X. ;-) You’re not alone - besides Victoria, there are other X fans here.
I don’t hate X. I wish her all the best. I want her to have a hot boyfriend, win an Oscar, have a great family and kids - whatever she wants. And I’m not being sarcastic or facetious. Partly because I’m hoping she’ll leave Angelina alone after that, it’s true.
I have to say this latest stunt confirms for me that she’s not a very nice woman and she does not very nice things.
So since I accept you are her fan, I hope you accept that I am not her fan.
Ligaya
Nov 14, 2008 at 7:33 am
UNDER MOD:
Melodie, I’m not against you, I love you! I think you’re charming, and it’s fine with me if you’re a great fan of X. ;-) . . .
Ligaya
Nov 14, 2008 at 8:14 am
P.S. Melodie, it’s not a contradiction to wish X all the best AND at the same not be her fan. I don’t believe it’s a manichean world, I believe in dialectics. In other words, I don’t believe in black/white either/or. I believe in both/and, a range from white to shades of gray to black.
Victoria
Nov 14, 2008 at 8:27 am
Thank you, too, Mélodie! You are one of the most wonderful people here, you always look at things objectively, and I love reading your comments!!!
Ligaya
Nov 14, 2008 at 10:02 am
I know we have at least one Pittwatcher from Malaysia.
The Star/eonline/TrailerPark reports:
Changeling is scheduled to arrive in Malaysia on Jan 15, 2009.
mélodie
Nov 14, 2008 at 11:07 am
ligaya: thank you so much! i love you too!!!! it’s really fine that we’re all friends here! i’m aware that there are differents opinion, and i respect every opinion.it’s natural that everybody here don’t like X, but i don’t like when people are direspectful. wel, i think the discussion about X is close now, we have to focus on th most beautiful family on earth, the jolie pitt!
have you ever seen the challenging? it opened yesterday in belgium, i hope i’ll be able to see it this week end (i have to convince my boyfriend… argh!)
have a nice week end!
Ligaya
Nov 14, 2008 at 11:30 am
I visited Belgium with my mom in 1989 - beautiful country! We ate too many chocolates, of course. ;-) I wanted to buy lace but it was too expensive for my budget, lol. I was hoping to go to Europe again with hubby for a 2nd honeymoon but I’ve given up that idea - we won’t have the money.
mélodie
Nov 14, 2008 at 2:58 pm
ligaya: yeah, in 1989, i was only one year old! i could be your guide if you want to visit belgium!
Mary Ann
Nov 15, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Trying to get caught up and for some reason the clips wouldn’t play for me. But I read all the comments. I do believe that when Jen finds a good loving relationship she will be very happy. I am not sure that John Meyer is the right man for her.
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