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26 opinions for Angelina Jolie’s vehicle almost blocked in

• isacutie
  Apr 27, 2008 at 7:43 pm

  It is crazy how the paparazzi has become so invasive. Yes, they have a job to do, and yes, in many ways, we fans are the reasons why they do this but it’s true that they’ve become really really horrible in the way they work just to get a shot. Some people no longer seem to care for safety, whether of the celebrities they’re taking photos of or even themselves. I guess the JPs photos fetch a very good price, which is why they really hound them. I feel bad for the kids especially, because they really shouldn’t have to be put through this.

  I certainly don’t blame the celebs that fights back. It’s very understandable, especially when they are taken during times of grief or problems.

• Passerby
  Apr 27, 2008 at 8:25 pm

  We fans are attracted to Brangelina photos but its not like we demand them. Sure we’ll be more inclined to buying a magazine with them on it but we fans are perfectly fine with candid long lens shots. We don’t need the up close ones.

  I blame the tabloids for this. I know everybody needs to make money but you can do it honestly and not through lies and photos 1 inch away.

  I wonder if its possible to start a protest and have a law made about taking pictures of other people’s kids without permission.

• isacutie
  Apr 27, 2008 at 8:54 pm

  Yeah, I wonder if having a law about stalking people just to take photos would help. I’m kind of surprised that there isn’t one already.

• BlessBrangelina
  Apr 27, 2008 at 9:40 pm

  It is disgusting the way they behave. I think they do it more with Angie than other celebs. Some of the pictures, looks like she is about to be knocked into the bushes. Surely they would get better quality pics if were 5 or 6 steps in front, instead of 1 or 2.

  We as fans do feed it, but we would still appreciate less brutality, towards pregnant a woman and her children. I have seen the pictures of Jessica, Gwen and even Halle, Jennifer Lopez and Cate were not treated like that. They were more appreciative of them as human beings and showed consideration.

  It seems that LA and NY have a different caliber of paps than anywhere else.

• mélodie
  Apr 28, 2008 at 12:56 am

  hello everybody!!!

  i’m afraid when i see pics like these and i feel coupable sometimes.

  i admire the calm of angie, if i was in the same place, i would scream!!!

  i think that this kind of non-respect happens only when they are in NY or LA (fortunately)!

  in france and belgium there is some laws about that: in fact, these laws are about the respect of private life: when a star is photographed with her kids at the beach (for example) and that the pics are in some magazines, she can lodge a complaint against the tabloid. the tabloid loose a lot of money and don’t buy anymore the private pics of this person. and if nobody buy the pics, the papz don’t take them!

  i think a law must be adopted in usa, to protect the kids. we, fans, would be sad to see no more pics of the JP’kids, but we’ll survive! i think we are all happier to see pics who were taken from a long distance than close pics, cause we immediaty think “poor child” or “poor angelina”

• D
  Apr 28, 2008 at 2:28 am

  :(
  Angie, take care! cant believe they are pushing it to the limit wiith a heavily preganent lady…. it is dangerous business…
  :(

• fan
  Apr 28, 2008 at 3:41 am

  Thanks sherry, well the good thing is that they’ll be out of LA soon and heading overseas.

• Phoebe
  Apr 28, 2008 at 7:09 am

  i can´t watch the video:(
  well i always admired how Angelina kept cool under all that pressure, but she looks pretty stressed on the pics on JJ.
  i think the kids should not be hunted like that. Brangelina are in that business and they have to live with it, thats bad enough. but i pity the kids.

• ligaya
  Apr 28, 2008 at 9:12 am

  Melodie, I wish we had laws like the ones in Europe about privacy. I agree with you, BlessBrangelina - I think Angelina is treated with a lot more disrespect than the others. I watched documentary specials on papparazzi - one on CNN and another on a cable show I can’t remember, several people interviewed said it’s probably going to take another death like Princess Diana’s before the paps are put on a leash. It seems to me that it’d be better to prevent deaths & injuries, than wait for them to happen.

• Mary Ann
  Apr 28, 2008 at 9:24 am

  BlessBrangelina I agree with you 100 percent. When they are in NYC or LA we see very little of them out with the children. When they are in New Orleans they seem to be able to walk around the town and people are not falling all over them. Also, last week we had our discussion about the pitting of the children against each other. And I have been giving this some thought. When the paps are screaming out Shiloh’s name they are not only frightening this little girl, but maybe the other children are thinking well why Shiloh, what about me. I am not sure I am making myself clear on this, but I think it could or will make for hard feelings. I hope they find some place peaceful to wait for their new child. I also like the long lens pictures, whatever it takes to give this family some peace of mind. They just want to raise their children like normal people and the paps are not letting that happen. God Bless them for not punching them out.

• susan
  Apr 28, 2008 at 9:34 am

  well, I think Sherry is absolutely correct to a large degree- the papz are only doing their job and earning a living like you or me (plus we love to see the pics and vids they provide of Brad, Angie or any other fav celeb)…so we shouldn’t right out condemn every papz…but it’s the techniques and strategies that are used sometimes that can be questioned and really should be…

  There should be a set rule or law in relation to safety and distance…I think the papz should have to remain so many feet away from the celebs and they should never be allowed to stalk them in traffic or use any other aggressive actions that can place the safety of the celeb or children in jeopardy…this is for the overall well being of everyone involved…

  the flashing lights are naturally a part of being famous, but there should be a certain level of respect and decency when getting the photos and videos…it should never get nasty or ugly…respect and safety should come first…

• ligaya
  Apr 28, 2008 at 11:02 am

  Mary Ann, you’re coming through loud & clear. You got that right. I agree with the posters on the “adopted” thread who said that the tabs/paps are setting up the JP kids against each other, and that it’s racist. And racism isn’t a conspiracy where all the tabs/paps meet in a room to plan their moves. It’s a fact of life embedded in our society.

  I don’t buy the rose-glasses/blinders outlook that tabs/peeps don’t have an agenda. Please - just look at how Angelina is covered.

• susan
  Apr 28, 2008 at 12:38 pm

  Ligaya- Even if that is true in regards to racism, I don’t really believe it will impact the JP family…I think I said this in the bio/adopted thread, but children should learn their ethics and morals from parenting rather than the media…if Brad and Angelina raise them to be individuals and embrace their culture and background, then they should be healthy adults…so I don’t really worry too much about what they write (as I am sure the JP’s don’t)…

  I completely agree that the tabs are nasty and cruel in printing outright lies and misconceptions about people, but that isn’t a new phenomenon…they have been doing that for as long as I can remember reading the headlines…let’s see: the Princess Diana divorce, the Bill Clinton scandal, Britney Spears, Anna Nicole Smith’s death, Tom Cruise/Katie Holmes, Oprah, JonBenet Ramsey…the exploitation list goes on and on…

  I think tabs generally attack everyone from every color, nationality and backround…so I am not so sure if it’s completely racially motivated or not…I think their agenda is to print the stories that sell magazines and right now, Brad and Angelina are the hot topic of the moment…

  Of course I feel that stories about the children are unnecessary and cross the line of taste, but I am not sure what the answer would be to fix this…even PEOPLE prints pics of celeb children (even if they have a good reputation and keep it tasteful and clean)…if it is wrong for one, then it probably should be wrong for all regardless of the way they approach the material…

  I don’t know, it’s such a lose-lose situation either way…but it’s interesting for us to discuss the different solutions :-)

• Mary Ann
  Apr 28, 2008 at 4:59 pm

  Ligaya I don’t think it is racial. I think it is because Shiloh is the product of Brad and Angie and some people have more interest in her then the other children. Any children that they have together I believe will be singled out. I like seeing all of the children and have more or less forgotten that Shiloh is the bio child, they in my mind are just Brad and Angie’s kids and I have interest in everyone of them. This is why I am getting to the point that when they are in LA knowing we will not see to many pictures of the family together. So I am looking forward to when they do go to Cannes, because last year we saw all those cute pictures of all of them all dressed up.

• ligaya
  Apr 28, 2008 at 6:26 pm

  Mary Ann, you have a great big heart and the way you’ve lived your life is an inspiration to me.

  You’re right that there’s huge interest in Shiloh because she’s Angelina’s & Brad’s biological child, and there will be the same kind of interest in the next biological child(ren).

  I’m saying, IMHO, that it’s that AND it’s racism. At the very least, it’s putting the adopted kids separate from the biological kids. And we should know that separate is *not* equal (Brown vs. Board of Education, U.S. Supreme Court). I’ve experienced racism my whole life here, as well as discrimination against immigrants. Racism is not just lynching, separate water fountains/bathrooms, no voting rights, etc. Racism is much more subtle & sophisticated than that now. We’ve come a long way from the 1960s, and there’s still a long ways to go.

  Here’s a heartbreaking letter to Dear Abby, speaking to the point of adopted vs. “real” daughter.

  By Abigail Van Buren
  Fri Apr 25, 7:59 PM ET
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucda/20080425/lf_ucda/sisterscrueltauntsdrawtearsfromadopteddaughter;_ylt=AumaiSEpGgKkIw2KKwnttDHNbbUC

  DEAR ABBY: I’m 12 and adopted. I have always known and have never felt less loved because of it. My mom always said that when you’re adopted, you know that you are wanted and loved because nobody gets adopted by accident.

  My 14-year-old sister, “Melissa,” is our parents’ natural child. We were always close, but lately she has decided to be mean to me and tries to hurt me by telling me that I’m not her “real” sister and our parents aren’t my “real” parents. This hurts very much. If I cry, she thinks it’s funny. She never says it in front of our parents — she wouldn’t dare.

  Melissa used to tease me when we were alone in our room, but now she does it in front of her friends, who also laugh at me when I get upset and cry. Melissa would be in big trouble if I told Mom, but I’m afraid it will make her even meaner. I don’t want to get her in trouble because, in spite of this, I still love her. I just want her to stop being mean and start treating me like her real sister again. Abby, what should I do? — REAL SISTER IN TACOMA

  DEAR REAL SISTER: Clip this and show it to “Miss Melissa.” I have news for her. Parents who raise a child ARE “real” mothers and fathers. And you are as “real” a sister as Melissa is likely to get.
  Her behavior is cruel, insensitive and immature…

  Ligaya again: Despite her sister’s abuse, this child is not only protecting her, she still loves her. This situation is not only very hurtful to the writer now. I can tell you from experience in the mental health field that it could damage her for a long time.

• ligaya
  Apr 28, 2008 at 6:31 pm

  Mary Ann, my post to you is under moderation - maybe because it’s book-length. ;-) Just kidding. Part of my post was a letter to Dear Abby from a 12-year old adopted girl. Here’s the URL:

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucda/20080425/lf_ucda/sisterscrueltauntsdrawtearsfromadopteddaughter;_ylt=AumaiSEpGgKkIw2KKwnttDHNbbUC

• ligaya
  Apr 28, 2008 at 6:42 pm

  Mary Ann, my first post to you is under moderation. My 2nd post to you to let you know that I had a response to your post is also under moderation. Hah!, hee hee!

  I’m afraid to put the URL here for fear this 3rd post will be under moderation too. Anyway, if you go to Dear Abby, her Friday, April 25, 2008 column has heart-wrenching letter from an adopted 12 year old girl.

• Lucy
  Apr 28, 2008 at 11:35 pm

  YOu are all right folks. Paps should have used their long lens more often. I’m glad Angie is very patient with them. Poor Angie.

• Mary Ann
  Apr 30, 2008 at 10:59 am

  Ligaya, I took your advise and read the story, and yes it is really sad. I also have had experience with racial feelings. I am a American woman who married a Puerto Rican. My father and mother were horrified. Of course they themselves had really bad problems that affected my sister. brothers and me, but that didn’t matter to them, but me dating and then marrying a Puerto Rican was bad bad stuff to them. Also,once we went to rent a small apartment from a very nice older women. When we moved in the next day, her son stopped in to visit his mother and saw my husband and that was the end of that apartment, he made such a stink we had to get right out. When we retired to Puerto Rico I then became the target of racial feelings. Because I was living there and not just vacationing I became known in the stores in our town and people started making remarks to me because I didn’t speak Spanish. Many of the women were very rude to me. So I then realized in a small way how hurt my husband must have felt when people judged him on his birth place and not him the person. Needless to say we didn’t last long in PR. About the Jolie-Pitt children I just think the tabs will do everything in their power to try to create problems between the adopted and bio children. But I have faith that Brad and Angelina will have given these children so much love and respect that they the children will not allow that to happen. As it is now you can see that Maddox is not to crazy about the paps. And as they get older the children will be to smart and wise to allow that to happen.

• Mary Ann
  Apr 30, 2008 at 11:07 am

  Another funny story, my son came home from school one day, he was in kindergarden. He told us he was being taken to another school. I guess it was like the third day. I asked what he doing there, and he said they were going to teach him to speak and read English. Well I called the school, and because my son’s name was Spanish sounding they assumed he didn’t speak English. Boy did I flip out. That was the only language spoken in our home, which later we sorry that Daddy didn’t speak Spanish at home so they could learn a second language.

• BlessBrangelina
  Apr 30, 2008 at 5:57 pm

  Great discussion ladies. That’s a sad letter Ligaya.

  I think that the issue will ultimately be how their friends outside treat them. Like the little girl in Dear Abby, am sure things will be great until they start mixing at school.

  Kids are not born mean spirited or racist, they learn from their parents and peers. I remember as an adult riding in a bus with a young mother and her toddler. The child was looking at me, smiling and giggling, so I made faces at her. She started to laugh.

  Her mother smiled at her then after turning round to look at me, she adjusted her baby’s position so she couldn’t see me.

  It’s sad that the tabloids either don’t care or are pushing an agenda.

• isacutie
  May 1, 2008 at 6:13 pm

  That was a sad letter, and the stories you shared Mary Ann are also sad. It’s really so awful prejudice and discrimination (not just on race) continue to happen, and not just in the US either. I gotta say every now and then I’m guilty of some sort of that as well. However, when it gets to be really hurtful and then it gets rubbed in even further, it’s really maddening. I agree with BlessBrangelina, kids aren’t innately mean or prejudiced, it’s really more the effect of what they pick up from parents and peers. I just hope I’ll be able to raise my son a better person who looks at all people the same way, without prejudice.

• ligaya
  May 1, 2008 at 7:34 pm

  BlessBrangelina & Isacutie - 100% right. Babies are born innocent - not racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-disabled, etc. It IS what they learn from their parents & family, peers, teachers, religious leaders, political leaders & popular culture (tv, movies, music, books, magazines, newspapers, internet, etc.

  My husband’s favorite musical is South Pacific (now on Broadway). His favorite song “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught,” about this very topic. An excellent new documentary “Hollywood Chinese” takes us from the 1920s to Harold & Kumar - with a look at yellow-face aka white actors like Katherine Hepburn & Peter Sellars in Asian roles.

  The movie “21″ is based on a true story of Asian American math whizzes at MIT but the lead & most of the cast are white, just a couple of Asian Americans in the background. “Dangerous Minds” was a true story of this black female Marine, but she was played by Michelle Pfeiffer (love her). Pop culture has an effect.

• ligaya
  May 4, 2008 at 3:20 pm

  Everyone’s right about Angelina & Brad’s love giving the kids a strong foundation & instilling core values, including a sense of self-worth, which will last for the rest of their lives. All the stories I’ve read of successful people overcoming adversity had someone who did that for them – parents, grandparents, aunties, teachers, coaches etc. MY THOUGHTS: Does this mean the kids are immune to their environment? Are they sheltered from seeing the tabs in every newsstand they pass by, supermarkets, drugstores & bookstores they visit? Will they be able to avoid the tab tv shows? How long will this last? What if one of their classmates innocently or intentionally repeats something derogatory they overheard from an adult? Maddox already has a computer - does he have access to the internet? Kids are curious, I wouldn’t be surprised if he googled his parents, siblings & himself.

  Children are both sensitive & resilient. They know when their parents are in the process of divorcing, even when the parents try to keep it from them. If the JP kids have seen the tab covers, even the ones who don’t read yet can pick up the vibes of the parents frowning at each other, or the triangle, or Angie vs. X, especially when it’s cover after cover after cover. I would guess the kids would be puzzled, they won’t believe the foul lies about their family , and it might still sting or hurt , and they’d wonder why people are doing this. Maybe Angelina should do a Norma Rae/Sally Field move at the age-appropriate time. Norma Rae was a union organizer with kids who had different fathers; by talking with her kids about all the dirt the company was going to throw at her, they were prepared.

  (The young, pre-Maddox, pre-UNHCR Angelina would fit right in the bohemian, open-minded San Francisco Bay Area. Like some posters, I frankly embrace the “wild,” unconventional, free spirit Angelina – she’s done nothing she needs to apologize to anyone for. I, along with the long line of young women waiting to speak to Angelina during the 2001 Comic-Con, related to being outcasts in school, going the goth route, cutting, eating disorders – the whole gamut of young women in pain trying to deal with it. ).

  The biological vs. adopted issue will come up, not only because of the tabs, but because this matters to some people in our society – as well as why Africa/international and not U.S. adoptions? I’m always amazed at how cruel kids can be – K-12. Doesn’t it seem that teens can be especially cruel? What if some of the JP kids are chosen first for teams, and the other kids are chosen last or not al all? What if some of the JP kids are asked to dance or for dates all the time, and other JP kids are not? The JP kids are probably resilient enough to meet the challenge of dealing with society’s racial bias, bias favoring biological children, and against international adoptions.

• ligaya
  May 4, 2008 at 3:26 pm

  Mary Ann, BlessBrangelina & Isacutie, I posted about whether Angelina & Brad’s love would protect the kids from people’s biases. it’s under moderation. :-)

• Mary Ann
  May 4, 2008 at 5:14 pm

  Ligaya I look forward to your comments.

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