Pittwatch.com: Brad Pitt & Angelina Jolie Gossip

92 opinions for Brad and Angelina’s stalker - are you kidding me?!

• Booyah
  Jul 27, 2008 at 8:26 pm

  Angelina Jolie has a weird looking face.

  There, I said it.

• Charlene
  Jul 27, 2008 at 9:44 pm

  I agree wholeheartedly. I wish they could get some privacy too. Can you imagine what that must feel like to them and their children, the ones who have an idea of what’s going on? Horrible! The only upside is if you have to be stuck inside for awhile…that’s a good place to be.

• Charlene
  Jul 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm

  (Not trying to make light of what happened.)

• Lashae
  Jul 27, 2008 at 9:49 pm

  I totally agree with you, Sherry. When they are in public it is fair game to take pictures but when they are in the sanctity of their home no one should be taking any pictures of them. Anyone who is trespassing on their property should be arrested and anyone taking pictures should be sued.

• angela
  Jul 27, 2008 at 10:10 pm

  o.m.g.! if i were the security i’d be alarmed too. the paparazzi’s costume and camera is scary and fishy at the same time.

  i hope they won’t move to another country because the kids seem to enjoy playing in their huge backyard so i hope they can solve this invasion of property issue as soon as possible and i hope the papz will stop stalking them.

• ConcernedFan
  Jul 27, 2008 at 11:11 pm

  This has to be illegal. And so creepy! To be dressed in camouflage clearly proves this guy KNEW he was doing something wrong, something he didn’t want to be caught for. It would be crazy if the French police lets this slip.

  That said, as someone who has lived in France, I’ve always had the impression that enforcement tends to be occasionally weak in France (as it may be in many other countries). French law is ambitious and great in concept but the enforcement doesn’t always follow through. I hope the family doesn’t settle in France for good.

• lylian
  Jul 28, 2008 at 12:48 am

  The question to ask is, what can we as fans do because there is some truth to the statement that the fans drive the price of photos up.

  For example, can we choose not to look or limit the number of times we click on websites which post these highly intrusive photos? Or can fans sites choose not to post the photos? Or if we do look, can we at least not discuss what we see and go to another thread?

  I’m realistic. Much as we would much rather not look, I know as a fan, we will. But if we at least limit ourselves a little, might that not help? Its like the JJ’s tablie thread about Know and Vivienne conceived through IVF. I’m not blaming Jared for posting the tablie lie. He may be contractually obligated to do so but we don’t have to click more than once or twice, we don’t have to post, we don’t have to encourage the behaviour.

• Matilda
  Jul 28, 2008 at 5:16 am

  Yes, I hope this paparazzo’s arrest will act as a deterrant to others waiting around outside. It would be nice if the Jolie-Pitts could feel safe enough to play freely in their own property. I hate to think that this kind of incident would introduce fear or paranoia into the minds of Maddox or Pax, who are old enough to understand. Imagine wondering if every moving bush has someone hiding behind it, waiting to snap your picture. What a horrible gift to give a child.

  At the same time I have a feeling the Jolie-Pitts will remain in their house for awhile longer though, just because up until this point it has given them a good level of privacy (much better than the house they were previously in anyway, where the paps were taking pictures of them on the balcony every day). Also, I read somewhere that Maddox has been enrolled into a local French school, starting in September (maybe the second grade? He’s getting so big!) So I think they will stay a bit longer. Hopefully nothing like this will happen again.

• Teri
  Jul 28, 2008 at 5:26 am

  Good morning everyone. The real question is who does this guy work for? If I recall right many of those papz have prior criminal records.

• davesmomster
  Jul 28, 2008 at 5:27 am

  Couldn’t agree more. This is sad and DANGEROUS. If that guy had been armed as well it could have been a tragedy. Maybe they should install motion detectors at the edge of the property but such a shame to have to take it to that level. Moving won’t help unfortunately unless, like another poster said (tongue in cheek) they move to the space station.

• Hannah
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:07 am

  seeing this just sickens me, anyone trying to get onto there land should be put in jail and treated as a threat weather or not they are just trying to get a lousy photo. Leave them alone for gods sake, they are just like every other celebrity out there.

• Lois
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:11 am

  I can’t imagine them leaving now when they have 2 newborns. Maybe it’s just commercial airlines but I thought they shouldn’t fly for a couple of months after birth. I assume Brad will promote Burn After Reading at the Venice Film Festival so it makes sense for them to stay in France until then. If they have another incident and the police refuses to do anything about it then I think they will leave. Although it may sound weird to say I wouldn’t be surprised if they went to New Orleans. That seems like the only city where they and their house isn’t invaded. When they walk the streets the paps actually keep their distance. I haven’t seen pap pictures of their home.

• Mary
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:15 am

  I really like and admire this couple, their family and how they are trying to raise and love their extended family. But I really don’t understand the absolutely insane (and this is just one of the most extreme examples) reaction they cause.

  When I look at them, what I see is a normal, happy family. The photos of them look like any other large, extended family of parents, children, grand parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. If someone saw the last set of pictures, they would wonder what the fuss is. They don’t dress like multimillionaires or dress their children like little models. They play, get dirty and seem like your next door neighbors. There was a hose and a plastic pool for goodness sakes. Just like my family did for me when I was young. If you did not see the view of the “chateau”, you would just say “cute photos of a very normal family”.

  I guess this might be a part of their mystique. They are just so real and seem to be trying to do the normal things for their children. Which is probably why they do what they do to protect their privacy. It is a true shame they just can’t be left alone to do what any other family does.

  They are not going out to the “usual paparazzi spots” getting arrested, being foolish and asking for this attention like so many other celebrities, yet they still get chased and distractors say they asked for it. Playing in your backyard with your children is not that news worthy.

  They are a more generous, beautiful, talented, couple of people, but trying so hard not to stand out, yet are chased around the world and stalked by potentially unstable people. It is just such a mystery to me.

• baby dalailama
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:18 am

  i feel pretty peeved at the security company that brad and angie are using..they are paid huge amounts of money to prevent things like this…no way should that guy have got anywhere near them..this time it was just a pap but who can tell who it is until its too late..their security have really messed up big time and i’m sure there has been a lot of socks pulled up because of this. Of course stunts like this will happen and there is always the possibility of danger, thats why they have security. any publication that uses pictures taken on private property should be sued instantly, it wouldn’t take long for the message to get through ! this kind of invasive stalking by the media has to stop and maybe brad and angie can be the ones to lead the way and say enough is enough…genuine stars who are sick to death of this kind of harrassment would be right behind them..the “celebs” who think any publicity is good publicity can be left to the mercy of the tabloids.

• Aurora
  Jul 28, 2008 at 7:47 am

  OMG!!! That camera is humongous! That is unbelievable. How in *** could that crazy pap say he was the aggrieved party when he trespassed and had every intention to camp out and spend a few days inside the estate. It’s just plain crazy!!! People like this should be thrown right into jail and not be allowed to run around.

• soraya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:16 am

  Why don’t they lock up paparazzi who tresspass on private property? I mean does having a camera in hand exempt you from what would happen to 99.9% of us who did the same thing?

• Kari
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:18 am

  Talk about being caught red handed !!!!

  Yes it’s bad. But to take the glass half full approach, at least this is the only guy they’ve caught ! So far they have managed to maintain their privacy really well. Moreover, perhaps this incident will lead them to boost security, the local police to take note, and the papz to get spooked (or perhaps this is just wishful thinking !)

• Fan from Vietnam
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:21 am

  lylian, this was exactly what I thought and suggested when the private family photos were posted. I think it is high time that fans did something to help the JPs. Let’s not buy tabloids magazines, let’s not go to their websites and let us not look at photos that we know are taken by intrusion of privacy.

  I can see a lot of anger (towards the paps) and concern (for the JPs) expressed by Pittwatch readers here after the incident. If everyone of us is determined to “walk the talk”, we should be able to help this family have some privacy. It may not happen immediately but gradually I believe the paps and tabloids out there will get the message.

• soraya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:22 am

  I also wanted to mention that anyone near that estate should be on surveillance. No one should be loitering about. They don’t LIVE there so they should be followed. Aren’t there laws about this?

• soraya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:25 am

  I mean the paps whould be followed.

• WOW
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:32 am

  I don’t think they will be safe anywhere untill the pix if the twins are revealed. that’s why the heat is on more than ever. even then candid shots of the twins shot by ratzis will still bring HUGE money

• WOW
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:35 am

  I think they should have a dog, even the most mellow kid-friendly pooch will bark at intruders!

• Mary Ann
  Jul 28, 2008 at 9:36 am

  I was thinking last night that it has been a long time since Brad and Angelina have been able to take their children out to a toy store, art store, Chucky Cheese, the movies, just a walk in the street. This poor family has not been able to do these normal things for a few months now. I agree that the people in New Orleans seem to respect and leave them alone. But it would be crazy to go there right now, it is hurricane season, and with their luck they would get there and a major hurricane would hit the Gulf coast. Also, as one of the other readers commented Brad has commitments in France next month.

• irma
  Jul 28, 2008 at 10:22 am

  That camera lens is huge, I read that one of the guys have criminal record & that is scary.I’m glad they are caught hopefully, they will be prosecuted, give them a lesson to remember. Brad & Angie should add more security & let alone have plenty of dogs to roam the property.
  God bless the Jolie-Pitt’s.

• Robin
  Jul 28, 2008 at 10:32 am

  “Although I’m not thrilled with sneaky photos on private property, there’s no denying that it’s incredibly cute to see Brad, Angelina, Maddox, Pax, Zahara, and Shiloh out in their yard, playing ball and running around. It looks like Mrs. Pitt is there as well, as reports have stated. You can see the photos here.” — Sherry 7/21/08

  I’m sorry, you cannot have it both ways. One minute, you’re linking to the photos taken by these paparazzi scumbugs (which only serves to validate what they did), and the next minute you’re lambasting them, and posturing like you’ve taken the high road here. I say, put your money where your mouth is (”Public photos? Yes, please! Private home photos? No thanks.” 7/27/08), and next time clandestine photos like this get leaked, boycott them!

• Grace
  Jul 28, 2008 at 11:12 am

  Is Mickey (spelling) their long-time bodyguard still around?

• Carrie
  Jul 28, 2008 at 11:56 am

  I read an article (that seemed pretty legit, and newsie) that said they might have to move because the local police say it isn’t their obligation (or the tax payers) to provide security for celebrities, and that they receive numerous phone calls regarding the property and requiring police response, all about intruders. The town, it said, is concerned. I’ll try to find the link. (I was on vacation, and couldn’t post).

• BlessBrangelina
  Jul 28, 2008 at 12:58 pm

  Sherry apparently that guy has a police record in France. He was arrested and charged with obtaining a pic without permission in France over 5years ago.

  That’s scary that he has the nerve to continue without fear of some jail time.

• Terry
  Jul 28, 2008 at 3:21 pm

  Now this guy is after his 15 minutes. He is going around with a huge bandage on his head (which has gotten bigger and bigger by the day), with French paparazzi photographing him, like he is the victim.

  Funny, there haven’t been any more photos of them since the cease and desist letter and the little altercation. Hopefully, they can have some peace. Let them decide when they want to be seen and not by some maniac in camo with a humongous lens.

  I say let them alone and we will just have to make do with what they have already given us photo wise. Maybe they will attend the festivals coming up like last year. Both have films scheduled for Venice, Deauville, Toronto and NYC. Let’s keep our fingers crossed that they do great red carpets like last year. Thanks.

• Kari
  Jul 28, 2008 at 3:41 pm

  Woah !!!! I just went to Just Jared and they have a report about Jon Voigt totally blasting Obama in the most insidious of ways. Sounds like Jon Voigt has been reading a lot of the extreme right wing propaganda that has been circulated on the web. No wonder he and Angelina don’t get along !

• sarahc
  Jul 28, 2008 at 3:58 pm

  Brad should sue their butts off.

• ligaya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 4:53 pm

  I read Jon turned right-wing. He’s been traveling with McCain campaigning. OTOH, I read James Haven is born-again Christian, and he and Angelina still get along well.

  The Jolie-Pitt security team should have lots of dogs - big old german shepherds, dobermans, mastiffs, etc. Security failed big time. The paps shouldn’t have gotten as far as the edge of the vineyards. What happened to security at the outer perimeter? Are they going to have to hire Blackwater? Just kidding.

• ligaya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 pm

  Under mod - Jon, James, dogs & security.

• ligaya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 5:41 pm

  Carrie, the police reported that they had been called to the chateau only once in all the time the Jolie-Pitts have been in residence - the time Goursolas and his accomplice were caught trespassing.

  E!, giving no sources, said the French neighbors were annoyed because the Chateau called the police every day.

  Who am I going to believe - the official police spokesperson? Or a tabloid program with a history of inventing stories and a demonstrated hostility against the Jolie-Pitts? Using common sense, I vote for the police.

• ligaya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 5:44 pm

  under mod - about Carrie’s bogus rumor

• Kari
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:03 pm

  You’re funny Ligaya.

  That’s a great idea though. Hire Blackwater, they’ll arrest, try and persecute — even torture if you like — all trespassers !

  Don’t Brad and Angie’s security teams already have dogs? How do we know they don’t already have dogs? That’s probably how they found this guy to begin with. Anyhoo… I’m sure they’ll step up the watch and look, we should acknowledge the positive side to all this, this is the only guy that made it onto the property, they stopped him, and he’s going to pay dearly I imagine. Security will be stepped up. This should quieten things down — at least for a while.

• ligaya
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:12 pm

  Robin, it’s certainly valid and appropriate to raise the points you have. We’re all wrestling with this conundrum. But speaking just for myself, I don’t like the way you’ve done it – it makes me uncomfortable. It’s certainly OK to question whether Sherry isn’t being clear about pap photos. What I don’t like is that I feel you seem to be positioning yourself above and outside our community. You pose your questions in a fairly hostile manner. I feel if you had been more diplomatic, we could all have had a meaty discussion on this.

  Also, not speaking for the recent JJ readers, I feel safe in saying everyone else in the Pittwatch community (except for trolls and h8ters) have the utmost respect and fondness for Sherry. She runs the smoothest blog I’ve seen in the blogosphere. She’s fair, she helps us weather the storms that occasionally come up, and she works INCREDIBLY hard. Please, I ask you to deal with Sherry in the way we all treat each other here – with respect even in disagreement.

• Kari
  Jul 28, 2008 at 6:27 pm

  Aol is reporting that Bono may be the godfather of the twins.

• le
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:02 pm

  Robin, I only accept your comment if you have never seen a single private home photos of them.

• April
  Jul 28, 2008 at 10:44 pm

  Jon Voigt is pretty much right on. As far as Angelina, I remember her saying she wasn’t sure who she was going to vote for. Would you all just change your mind about her if she votes republican and for McCain? Not everbody on this site is a crazy liberal. believe it or not.

• lylian
  Jul 29, 2008 at 12:27 am

  le
  Jul 28, 2008 at 8:02 pm

  Robin, I only accept your comment if you have never seen a single private home photos of them.

  >>>>>>>>>>>

  I beg to differ. Robin’s comments have merit. The fan blogs should not put up photos of the JP’s which are taken in private property. We as fans can exercise some restraint ourselves.

  The best case of course is complete boycott - don’t look, don’t click on photos and stories we don’t approve of. I can do this with photos of people I’m NOT a fan of, for example photos/stories of people such as Britney or Anne Nicole smith etc. I’m not their fans and the only reason for clicking is to be GHOULISH or judgemental about their behaviour or their story. I don’t want to “enjoy” these sad stories. ( And lets face it, some people do “enjoy” reading stories of celebrity disasters because it makes them feel good about themselves.) I’d rather not be ghoulish or judgemental and so, its easy for me not to read about these sorts of stories or comment on them.

  In all honesty, as a fan, it is a lot harder for me not to click on photos of the JPs in happy circumstances. Although the latest photos were taken illegally and all that, I confess to taking real pleasure in seeing the JP’s, with friends and family, together as any normal family. The elder Pitts being normal grandparents. And it never fails to move me when I think how Maddox, Pax and Zahara could have miss out on all this in their lives.

  But a principle is a principle. Just as we wouldn’t want total strangers peeking into the cozy intimate moments in our lives in the privacy of our own homes, neither should we do that to the JP’s, even if we are fans.

  And if it is impossible for we fans to resist then we can at least limit the number of times click on them. We don’t have to add to the fever by speculating and discussing this or that about those photos on sites which show the photos. If we do talk about them we can do it on a blog like Pittwatch which DOES NOT show these photos.

  And even better alternative is to look at the photos for free on the magazine racks - then put them back. That way, there’s no clicks and no $$ spent on these photos.

  Tablies excuses is always - we give our readers what they want. There is some truth in that statement. So, I for one will start to modify my behavior.

  Individual actions may or may not amount to much but the journey of a thousand miles begin with the first step. Hopefully, by boycotting, by limiting the clicks etc, we send a message to blogs and to tablies that there are occassions when readers are repelled by the intrusion, by the ugliness of what they want to show.

• Victoria
  Jul 29, 2008 at 5:40 am

  I think the reason for this unbelievable interest in this couple is that they are BOTH superstars. Usually one is bigger than the other, e.g. when Brad was with Jen, he was definitely bigger (as far as “star power” was concerned), so they were only “times 3″ (as he put it), but he and Angelina are definitely at least “times 5″ (the amount of interest they generate together as opposed to alone). When they got together I´d say he was bigger than her, but by now it´s pretty equal.

  I do feel sorry for them for how their lives are and have to be. I think one way of reducing the public´s interest would be to remain more quiet about their private lives in interviews. Brad already is, he´s never given away much, but Angelina is pretty open, she lets us know a lot about their family life, her kids´ characters, their routines at home, how they do a lot without nannies etc. etc. She´s always been very open and candid about herself, but when you have a family, I think you have to be more careful. I really wonder what Brad thought about her comment on how pregnancy made s*x more creative. That really didn´t leave much to the imagination anymore, and it was more info than I needed/wanted. I think one has to stop inviting the public into your home (and definitely into your bedroom!), because the more info you feed the people, the greedier they get. You give them your little finger, but the public wants the whole hand. The public will always want more. I noticed that other superstars who get left alone much more are the ones who make a point of only talking about their work, and who remain very quiet about their private life. I am sure it would help a lot to be less candid.

  The way their lives is now is crazy. The children are prisoners in their home. With all the talk about them seeing all these different cultures, I actually wonder how much they still manage to see outside their four walls and garden.

  I don´t mean to run Angelina down, by the way. It has always been charming trait of hers, to be so unguarded and open. But I do believe it is backfiring right now, because it helps generate an unhealthy interest.

• WOW
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:21 am

  Angelina will speak out in due time, in a magazine interview she doesn’t make public statements she answers questions in interviews, written, TV, and RCs

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:29 am

  Good to know there’s a range of crazy right-wingers, crazy conservatives, sane conservatives, sane liberals, crazy liberals, sane progressives, etc. who support Angelina and Brad. The Democratic and Republican parties have changed over time. The Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln isn’t the same party of Nixon, Reagan and the Bushes. During the Civil Rights Movement, the southern Democrats vehemently opposed it. I miss the time when both parties were closer in their politics, I miss the non-ideological Republicans who were fiscally conservative and socially responsible – like President Eisenhower (who sent federal troops to enforce desegregation in Little Rock, Arkansas), Gov. Earl Warren (who became Supreme Court Chief Justice), Gov. Rockeller, NYC Mayor John Lindsay, Sen. Olympia Snow, and others.

  Angelina said she registered independent – which come to think of it, is totally appropriate for the independent woman she is. She said she hadn’t decided whom to vote for, and would consider both candidates equally – as is only prudent before going to the voting polls. If Angelina switches from Independent to Democrat or Republican and remains who she is now, I’d have no problem with that. Is she switches parties then changes her philosophies and deeds to opposite of what they are now, it would affect how much I’d support her.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:34 am

  under mod - politics and Angelina

  If Angelina switches from Independent to Democrat or Republican and remains who she is now, I’d have no problem with that. Is she switches parties then changes her philosophies and deeds to opposite of what they are now, it would affect how much I’d support her.

• Carrie
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:34 am

  Ligaya - I don’t know… I would think that with all the media reports about how photographers are invading their personal property… I would find it hard to believe that the police have been called only once. That seems unbelievable to me. I don’t know if E! is lying, but this is the kind of story that I would imagine some police officer might say off the record, rather than making an official statement. That said, if the photographers are violating the law, the police should get involved.

  Clearly the In Touch photographs are the type of photographs the JPs are worried about? I wonder how they got published without more complaint. Have I missed a legal action against In Touch?

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:35 am

  under mod - politics and Angelina

• Rita
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:38 am

  Robin & lylian, I totally agree with both of you. Sherry, please don’t link to the private photos anymore. It only serves to heighten the frenzy around this issue.

  And ligaya, I did not see Robin’s post as disrespectful towards Sherry. It was a criticism that we should all heed.

• Fan from Vietnam
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:42 am

  lylian and Victoria, very well said. I think both of you have made very valid points. As fans we can do something to help. I like the way lylian put it “Individual actions may or may not amount to much but the journey of a thousand miles begin with the first step”. I am with you and I have already done my first step!

  Angie’s openess has always been one of her values and we love her because of that, but I agree with Victoria that it is a double sword.

  I feel sorry for Angie and Brad and I hope this media craziness will be over soon.

• BAMPZS fan
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:53 am

  I love Angelina’s candor. She is ijust open. Brad is also 11 years older, which means he is tight lipped due to wisdom. They are just so awesome, for lack of a better word. I also think the fact the have adopted kids make them more news worthy. Plus two super stars together. Tom Hanks doesn’t get hounded but he is not married to a super star. I don’t know the answer but for some reason the public is fasinated by this couple. Probably, 1. Brad was married, wanted kids. 2. Angie was the villan but had kids.
  3. they immediately started adopting and getting pregnant. It is a juicy life. In what? three years they have 6 kids. They live a big, interesting life. Add Angies wild past, her fued with her dad and trying to lead a normal life plus all there humanitarin work.Add all the million they give to charity. lots of attention

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:01 am

  Carrie, I believe the police over E!. The police’s other statements, as reported by AP and others, were taken as accurate. Why not their statement of only being called once? The police official’s comment basically dismissing the pap incident was reported, why would the police lie about how often it was called to the chateau?

  You know CSI, Law & Order, Fracture, any number of tv and movie mysteries and thrillers? You know how people think they’ve got the murderer slamdunk, and it was somebody else?

  I think that’s what we do when we speculate without the complete facts, it’s easy to come to the seemingly correct and yet entirely wrong conclusion.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:02 am

  under mod - answering Carrie’s post

• the other brangie fan
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:09 am

  Lylian, I disagree. This disrespectful and seedy invasion of B&A’s privacy is not motivated by Angie’s openess. When B&A first got together, they made a point of not making any public appearances or statements until after his divorce was finalized. (That is far more sacrifice than other celebrities/people in general.) The media was in a rage, talking about how poor Jennifer was betrayed, etc. etc. - and no one knew the real status of that marriage.)

  But Angie was crucified. She only spoke up in her first magazine in late 2006 in the VF interview. And then she was crucified for talking. So she gets nailed by the media whether she talks or not.

  There is an agenda by the media to personally attack Brad and Angie. I don’t know if it is motivated by jealousy, prejudice or politics. But the media intrudes further into Brad and Angie’s life than other celebrities. They do this whether Angie talks or not.

  Angie is an open, candid person. That is so refreshing after the vague, sameness that other celebrities offer. For example, when asked about sex during pregnancy, she didn’t shy away. She said it makes you more creative. What’s wrong with that -it’s true and every couple who have been pregnant knows that. Angie should be able to speak her mine, like everyone else. There are many, many things personally and professionally and re: CFR that she doesn’t talke about. A woman that young on the CFR did not get there by careless and reckless with her comments.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:14 am

  Carrie, I believe you did miss some legal actions. The Jolie-Pitts’ lawyer sent Cease and Desist letters to an unspecified number of publications, as well as the unnamed photo agency (BauerGriffin) and IT, and LS (I think). Smoking Gun has the document.

  This is often the first step in filing a lawsuit. It is a legal action often used to stop continuing violations.

• BAMPZS fan
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:22 am

  I remember Angie making that Brad was the family liberal, after her visit to Iraq, she felt we should stay and help rebuild just as we are doing in the non violent areas. The press has always been very liberal and have a tenedessy to blow things out of portion, sinsationalize everyting especially the war.

• Kari
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:37 am

  April:

  I might have implied that I thought the extreme right wing literature Jon Voigt was readings was wacko but I did not state it.

  Referring to liberals as ‘crazy liberals’ on the other hand, is directly derogatory. In light of the assassinations at a unitarian church yesterday because the gunman claimed he hated ‘liberals’ I find this kind of epithet particularly insulting and in fact, unsettling.

• Neela
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:49 am

  so easy to prescribe to sherry what she should and shouldn’t do with her blog. but i think she’s just giving people an option. she’s leaving the decision up to each one of us as to whether or not we should click on the link she provides. it may not sit well with some of us, but the decision comes down to us. there are people who actually want to see those pictures. personally, i’d rather not, but there are those (fans & h*ters) in the general public who live for this kind of voyeurism. to some it may seem like sherry is being a hypocrite, but i think, she’s just giving us free will. it has nothing to do with her own personal opinion about the pap invasion. at the very least, sherry does not put up the pics themselves.

  regarding angie being candid, it’s true in some ways that that only incites an increase interest into her personal life, but at the same time, she has always been like that. and even when she (& brad) keeps mum, somehow, zines still manage to fabricate an interview or a story about them, and that also feeds people’s interest.

  anyway, i admire her saying something about pregnancy and sex. it’s great to hear from one of the most beautiful women in the world that pregnancy can be sexy and that one of the most handsome man on earth thinks so, too. that gives some confidence to pregnant women who may feel rather down about their weight gain. and i imagine brad doesn’t mind angie opening up about that. [in an old interview] she once mentioned to brad that she was nervous about doing an interview … she wasn’t sure what to say or something, and he told her to just be herself, to just do what she normally does in interviews; so, i think it would be alright with him to be her usual frank self even to this day.

  and even if she moderates herself now, i don’t think it would matter. interest in their lives would still be intense. just look at the interest in jackie o. and greta garbo. they were very private, but they were still hounded … greta in some ways because she had become somewhat of a recluse. that’s why sightings of her were a bit of a big news like ufo sightings.

  i feel bad for brad and angie because it might just come to that point where they have to limit being themselves just to temper interest in them, which i doubt is really going to lessen. like someone said, their simple fusion incites big interest. they can be hidden in space (as someone suggested), and they would still be big news.

• Neela
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:54 am

  my post is under moderation right now, but essentially, lylian pointed out some very good points.

• Terry
  Jul 29, 2008 at 10:13 am

  As for politics, not all the press is liberal nor are all liberals crazy just as not all conservatives are bigots. Be careful about putting labels on people. Both sides blow things out of proportion to meet their particular needs.

  Angelina never said Brad was the liberal, though from history, he does vote Democratic, which, by the way, does not make you a liberal. He has met with democrats and republicans on the hill, as has Angelina. Angelina seems to be more non-partisan from her history, so we don’t know her politics. Her trip to Iraq was grabbed by the conservative press as proof she was conservative, but if you read the article, it just said we should re-build what we helped to destroy, not stay because of the politics of the war. She also works with President Clinton on issues, so she cannot be labeled either.

  Her father’s views have nothing to do with her, but he should be careful about stating that he is writing as “a parent” since he has some issues with that. But he has every right to speak out as this is the US and freedom of speech is what we value, as do many other countries around the world.

  Politics is personal for everyone and everyone has the right to his or her opinion. This has been mine. Thank you.

• margaritam
  Jul 29, 2008 at 10:45 am

  Of course, the media attention will fall when the media find another celebrity or couple who are able to get hits or sell tabloids as much as Brad&Angelina. But in the near future, I think it is impossible.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 pm

  E! said “Rebecca Romijn & Jerry O’Connell: Havin’ Twins!” – what are the odds tabs will accuse them of using IVF and put them on the cover, hounding them for weeks?

  I’m training myself to take every tab/blog rumor/’report’ as complete B.S. until the Jolie-Pitts confirm it. We’re so eager for news that we easily want to believe.

  Just the past couple of weeks, here are rumors that spread around the world:

  • Us Weekly: IVF, and kids being moved 18 times in one year!
  • E! “Sacre Bleu! French Fry Jolie-Pitts, Praise Depp” one glaring lie among many, E! says the police are called to the chateau everyday, upsetting the villagers. Police report the Worm Goursolas affair as the 1st and only time police have been called to the chateau.
  • A few days ago, out of nowhere, are reports that Angelina has been ordered by ‘movie bosses’ to gain weight so she’s not constantly fainting like on the Wanted shoot - she’s still the leading candidate for the Thomas Crown Affair. The past few days brings news that she wants to play Catwoman in the next Batman movie ????
  • And just as suddenly, come ‘reports’ that Bono will be godfather and Jenny Shimizu godmother.

  Come on now, we have brains and powers of reasoning. Do any of the rumors seem remotely possible except in tabloid heaven? They’re outrageous! We’re going to believe them because of what? Who are we going to believe first- the Jolie-Pitts or tabloids? Tabloids or Jolie-Pitts?

  A few days ago, out of nowhere, are reports that Angelina has been ordered by ‘movie bosses’ to gain weight so she’s not constantly fainting like during the Wanted shoot, she’s still the leading candidate for the Thomas Crown Affair, Catwoman
  • And just as suddenly, come ‘reports’ that Bono will be godfather and Jenny Shimizu godmother.

  Come on now, we have brains and powers of reasoning. Do any of the rumors seem remotely possible except in tabloid heaven? They’re outrageous! We’re going to believe them because of that? Who are we going to believe first- the Jolie-Pitts or tabloids? Tabloids or Jolie-Pitts?

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 12:18 pm

  under mod - tabs’ rumors and the Jolie-Pitts.

  (sorry, I posted the last 2 paragraphs twice)

• April
  Jul 29, 2008 at 3:54 pm

  Still, as you said you implied it. I just went ahead and stated it. As someone else said there are crazies on both sides of every issue. If crazy liberal is not the group you fit into then that statement did not apply to you. I just know that to some degree that issue that Jon Voigt wrote I agree with. I think we all know that most people in the movie industry and many that follow their careers closely are liberals. It just so happens that Angelina Jolie has a wide variety of people interested because she does not seem to have been pigeon holed by any one political affiliation or religion. That is what I like and I am sure what draws so many other people.

• Mary Ann
  Jul 29, 2008 at 3:55 pm

  I questioned yesterday if Shiloh was ever Christened and maybe I missed if anyone answered. But I wonder if the rumor about Bono and Jenny S is just another crazy rumor.

• Neela
  Jul 29, 2008 at 4:04 pm

  mary ann, who is jenny s?

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 4:15 pm

  Hi,Mary Ann. :-) Yesterday I posted (don’t remember which thread) that I’d never heard or read about any of the Jolie-Pitt kids being baptized – from Maddox onward. I think the tabs/paps would have made a huge thing out of any christening, so we would have heard something.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 4:20 pm

  Also, my comment about the rumors swirling around the JPs the past couple of weeks including the bogus Bono/Jenny Shimizu godfather/godmother rumor is - all together now - *Under Moderation*.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 5:40 pm

  I think Kari got it, but just in case anyone thinks I was serious about the JPs hiring Blackwater, I should have put a winking emoticon there to make it clear I was joking. I think Blackwater should be dismantled as a dangerous force in the world, and it should reimburse us taxpayers.

  On another note, is anyone else annoyed by the spate of articles saying something similar to “Jennifer Aniston Wed Brad Pitt Eight Years Ago Today”? This is unique in my experience. I’ve never seen anyone in public/private life commented on like this. Are A, B and X supposed to be joined together by an invisible cord their whole lives?

  I wish X would tell the tabs: “Look, enough already. I don’t need your pity. I’ve moved on. I have a fulfilling life and I’m happy with John Mayer. I don’t want to be known as the ex-Mrs. Pitt the rest of my life.”

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 5:46 pm

  Under mod - clearing up Blackwater, and A, B, and X tied together forever.

  OK, I’ve stopped using the ampersand and nicknames. Next, I’ll try using synonyms instead of the 3-letter word for making whoopee. Some of my short posts get through and some long posts get through. I guess I’ll just have to do trial and error.

• lylian
  Jul 29, 2008 at 6:00 pm

  the other brangie fan
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:09 am

  Lylian, I disagree. This disrespectful and seedy invasion of B&A’s privacy is not motivated by Angie’s openess.

  >>>>>>>>>>>>

  I didn’t say this. Victoria I think did.

  I actually agree with posters who say that Angelina’s candour doesn’t have to anything to do with the intrusion into their private lives now. After all, the fact that Gwyneth and Chris don’t show up anywhere together doesn’t stop the speculation on their marriage. The fact that some celebs invite people into their homes (Ever see Hello??) doesn’t stop readers like me from skipping past those articles coz I’m bored!!!

• le
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:37 pm

  Thanks for your comment Lylian. I appreciate what you said, agreed with you. My point is you do what ever you need to do in your life, but let others decide what they feel need to do. We’re all here giving our opinion.

• bradfan
  Jul 29, 2008 at 8:51 pm

  I think the JP’s should move back to the US, buy a couple of BIG guns, take the needed courses for concieled weapons permits,visit the shooting range and just shoot any Paps they catch invading their private space.After a few shots of buck shot from a 12 guage the paps would definetly think twice about trying to shinny up a tree to get photos.Ha Ha…Seriously they might try moving to some out of the way place in Montana or Idaho where there are not a lot of people, Demi Moore and her family live in Ketchum and have since Bruce and Demi were married. They have raised the 3 girls there and have lead a fairly normal life. Maybe we’re just more laid back here in the west, or maybe we just respect other peoples privacy more.I feel sorry that they can never seem to get a minuets peace.I personally read the tabs while in line at wal-mart…why should I spend good money on trash that I can scope for free while waiting for the lady in fronr of me to pay for her groceries… I would buy the people mag if they do publish the first pics of Knox & Vivienne however.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:48 pm

  Back on Sherry’s point on privacy and celebs. This is what I believe. My starting premises are:

  1. Everybody - absolutely everybody - no matter who, has a right to privacy. Neither our Constitution nor our Bill of Rights says that everybody has a right to privacy - EXCEPT actors, other entertainers, athletes, politicians and other public figures (Bill Gates, J.K. Rowling, Wolfgang Puck).

  2. There are degrees – a spectrum – of privacy. It’s not a matter of either/or – once an actor gives up SOME privacy, they don’t give up ALL their privacy. Fair game = in public WITHOUT their family, red carpets, movie premieres, film festivals. Out of bounds = when family is present, on their private property or others’ private property (no invasive cannon size lenses, no helicopter, no from a roof/tree, whatever), no bathroom shots or similar private moments.

  3. WTF is it with this sense of entitlement? Just because I pay $10 to see a movie, I’m not entitled to invade the actors’ privacy. It’s an unwritten contract – I pay $10 to sit in a cushy theater and get entertained; actors aren’t extorting money from me, I’m getting something in return. I don’t own them, they’re not my slaves to do my bidding. An A-list actor with a proven track record (e.g., Will Smith) may get paid $20 million out of a $250 million production budget – don’t forget at least 25% of that goes to their agent, manager, publicist, etc. A movie often spends more that its production budget for promotion/publicity ($10 million for Little Miss Sunshine). I posted in another thread where the admission price goes to, and only a small part goes to actors’ pay.

• ligaya
  Jul 29, 2008 at 9:51 pm

  Under mod: celebs have a right to privacy and reasons why

• ligaya
  Jul 30, 2008 at 11:04 am

  Would someone please list the celebrities COMPARABLE to the Jolie Pitts who’ve been successful in living a quiet life without the paparazzi in this day and age? I’m not talking apples and oranges, I’m talking pears to pears and cherries to cherries.

  The Jolie-Pitts are at the center of this perfect media/pop culture storm because of WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DO. AND because of the internet and paps/tabloids. AND because the public eats it up – h8ters and fans alike. Angelina and Brad are HOTNESS personified. They’re stars. They have an unusual family – not seen since Mia Farrow’s and Josephine Baker’s. They are humanitarians and major philanthropists. They’re interested in other things like architecture and foreign policy. Everything they do is considered newsworthy - to a ridiculous level.

  Right now, the level of hysteria around Angelina and Brad is like that of pre-teens for the Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana combined. Angelina and Brad are a combustible combination - like Princess Diana and Prince Charles, Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, and Marilyn Monroe and Joe Dimaggio in their day, maybe Tom and Nicole, like the Beatles (check out their movie Help!), the Doors at the height of their popularity, Leonardo di Caprio right after Titanic (neither Gisele or Bar have Angelina’s star quality so those pairings aren’t as interesting – if Leo and Angelina were together, that would be something else). Even George Clooney throws Brad to the wolves, telling the paparazzis that Brad is there – then escaping himself.

  The “mind my own business” culture and wide open spaces of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, New Mexico, Connecticut and the rest of New England may seem like a safe haven for the Jolie-Pitts. Somehow, I think the paps/tabs will follow – at least until Angelina and Brad are no longer white-hot. We can’t count celebrities who left it all behind before the internet, like Paul Newman and Robert Redford. If they were in their prime hotness now, they’d be chased like George and Brad. And I love love Joanne Woodward, but neither she or the former Mrs. Redford would interest the tabs. It’s SEX APPEAL that makes the difference. Meryl Streep is a beautiful goddess. There are so many talented and beautiful actresses from the UK and Australia. They can be sexy but somehow no one else has Angelina’s incandescent quality. Julia isn’t as hot as she used to be and her husband isn’t as hot as she is. Beautiful Halle’s partner isn’t as hot as Brad or Halle. It has to be the COMBINATION.

  There’s no one-size-fits-all solution, just like there’s no shoe that fits one-and-all. It depends on work responsibilities and inclinations, among other things. When Bruce, Demi and Harrison moved far away from Hollywood, were they at their peak popularity? Did they have a very active production company like Brad’s that require in-person meetings, not just phone calls? Did they have projects like Brad and Angelina which required regularly going out into the world – Project Make It Right, Not on Our Watch, UNHCR, etc.?

• ligaya
  Jul 30, 2008 at 11:06 am

  Under mod: Would someone please list the celebrities COMPARABLE to the Jolie Pitts who’ve been successful in living a quiet life without the paparazzi in this day and age? I’m not talking apples and oranges, I’m talking pears to pears and cherries to cherries.

• Mary Ann
  Jul 30, 2008 at 4:30 pm

  Neela, Jenny S was involved with Angelina many years ago as a love interest. This is why I was so surprised at this rumor a couple of days ago that Bono would be the twins godfather and Jenny was going to be the godmother. My point being that I don’t think that Brad and Angie has Christened any of their children and if they are going to do it for the twins I hardly think Jenny S would be considered. The media would have a field day with that for sure.

• a moderate
  Jul 31, 2008 at 8:35 am

  Liberals,!!!! I don’t think movie stars should get soo involved in politics: like Sean Penn going to see Hussan in Iraq. They are not privy to all info and we should not be. every since viet nam the press is too involved in the war. they let our secrets out to the enemy. If they want to give an opinion is one thing but right after irag invasion Iran was backing down until we started having protest over here. That just fuels the enemy. Out of respect for our military men and women sometimes we should just keep quiet. We will never win another war with this crap. I hate being there and maybe the intel reports were wrong but we are there now and pulling out is a defeat and all the lives lost were in vain and we will be considered a bunch of babvies. If you are going to do it then do it. Our guys were getting their heads cut off and our press makes a big dea out of dog collars, Our soldiers are not dealing with cub scouts!!! Quit holding their hand and let them do their job with out the fear of being crusified. Susan Sarandon and all the others really don’t kniow what is going on. Do they see all the intell marked top secret.
  I think too many have forgotten 9/11. now I am off my soap box I may not agree we should be there but I think we need to finish the job before we leave.

  I love angie and brad and hope they get to have a normal life

• BAMPZSKV FAN
  Jul 31, 2008 at 8:38 am

  my name is just growing like their family

• ligaya
  Jul 31, 2008 at 10:09 am

  A Moderate, as always you have a right to your opinion - as do others. I think you have a lot of misinformation, though. And our Constitution and Bill of Rights don’t say only certain people can have free speech and political ideas - but not actors, singers and other types of people. (BTW, what do you think of John Wayne, Jon Voight and Chuck Norris?)

  There was a G.I. resistance movement during the Vietnam War which I participated in. There is a G.I. resistance movement now during the Iraq/Afghanistan War. If you want to hear from our women and men in uniform directly, please google Winter Soldier hearings.

  P.S. My dad served in Vietnam.

• Passerby
  Jul 31, 2008 at 4:31 pm

  Honestly I avoid magazines. I’m tired of this shenanigans and just basically read them for fun as I would a fiction book, not for whatever news they supposedly have. They are unreliable.

  And some people believe they can live life avoiding this mess and this mess only occurs cause they are attention wanters. I think thats incoherent. Can they live life avoiding paparazzi. Sure they probably can. Be hermits and suck the joy and fun in life for them and their kids. But do they want to. Well of course not. Nobody wants to be stuck at home and when you got fifty people at your gates its hard not to be photographed when leaving.

• moderate
  Jul 31, 2008 at 5:36 pm

  Freedom of speech, everyone has that right. In my opinion it comes with responsibilty. Not every soldier over there is against it. The problem is they are using reserves and instead of one tour they keep having to go back. That is not right. They have served their time. Before we go to war the president needs to take into consideration who is going to fight it, that and what do you have to draw from. There should have been a draft. In WWI and II there was no need for a draft and right after 9/11 we had no need. Bush got some bad advice or he listened to the wrong guy. BUT, if we go in, then go in, get ur done and get out. Patriotism only last a little time now. as Americans we need to show a strong front and stand together. My Dad stormed Normandy and fought in the battle of the bulge. 58,000 people lost their lives in the Batle of the Buldge alone. I grew up in the viet nam era. What happened when we left Viet Nam? over 2 million so vn were killed! We ran out of Korea, viet nam and now Iraq. No one can trust anything America says because all a few people have to do is whine enough and we won’t stand by our promise.

• Sherry
  Jul 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm

  I know that political interest is really high right now with the U.S. heading towards an election and people feel very strongly about their opinions at this time in particular. Also, so far a lot of the conversation that shifted towards political thoughts has been relatively respectful, even with differences.

  However, I have to ask people to please tread lightly and respectfully. While I love the discussions on this site and the way they can veer towards different topics, this isn’t a political blog and I don’t want to have it explode into something nasty.

  So, keep the political conversation going, as long as we can all respect each other.

  (I’m a very left-leaning Liberal up here in Canada, for what it’s worth.)

• ligaya
  Jul 31, 2008 at 8:03 pm

  There’s a glimmer of hope - can’t find it now, but yesterday or today, I read there’s an L.A. councilman forming a task force involving surrounding cities like Beverly Hills, Malibu, Calabasa, etc. Their object is to develop a uniform policy about paps and coordinate enforcement.

• BAMPZSKV FAN
  Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 am

  i AM SOME WHAT CONSERVATIVE BUT NOT SO RIGHT WING THAT I AM FANATICAL. LIKE BAILING OUT HOUSE LOANS. iN THREE TO FOUR STATES A LOT OF HOUSES WERE BOUGHT IN SPECULATION IN ORDER TO TURN A QUICK PROFIT. ALSO, BUYING A HOUSE YOU COULD NOT AFFORD. tHE INTEREST RATES WERE LOW, I DON’T UNDERSTAND NOT GETTING A FIXED. SO MY TAX DOLLARS GOING TO BAIL OUT THE HOUSING I DON’T UNDERSTAND OR AGREE WITH. WE NEED TO LIVE WITH IN OUR MEANS AND NOT ON CREDIT CARDS AND BEFORE EVERY PURCHASE ASK YOURSELF.. DO I NEED THIS OR DO I WANT THIS.THE CREDIT CARD CO. AND BANKS
  HAVE EXPLOITED PEOPLE AND NOW WANT BAILED OUT. I OWNED MY OWN BUSINESS FOR 14 YEARS AND TIMES GOT HARD, BUT THE GOV NEVER OFFERED TO MAKE MY LIFE ANY EASIER.
  CALL ME OLD FASHIONED BUT THE CART DOES GO AFTER THE HORSE.

• BAMPZSKV FAN
  Aug 1, 2008 at 7:30 am

  ONE FAN MENTIONED BLACKHAWK
  HEY WE MAY NOT LIKE THEIR MEANS BUT THEY DO GET THE JOB DONE. OUR MILITARY HAS THERE HANDS TIES.
  WITH JUST THE RUMOR OF THE JOLIE PITTS HIRING THEM THE PAPS WOULD THINK TWICE BEFORE INVADING THEIR SPACE. HOW DO YOU START THE RUMOR MILL??? bLACKHAWK OR IS BLACKWATER ANYWAY. START A RUMOR THAT THEY ARE TAKING OVER SECURITY FOR THE FAMILY

• ligaya
  Aug 1, 2008 at 7:43 am

  EEK! That was just a joke, folks. I put smiley and wink emoticons on my original post. I clarified in a later post that I was just jesting. I meant it to be how absurdly far/extreme the measures might have to be to get the paps off the JPs. But Blackwater is definitely no joke.

  Knowing what I do about Blackwater and the JPs, I think it’s safe to say that Blackwater’s values and mission are completely antithetical to what Angelina and Brad stand for - and that goes for me too.

  (Plus, Blackwater cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions - maybe even billions - of dollars.)

• ligaya
  Aug 1, 2008 at 7:45 am

  under mod - EEK! My Blackwater jest was misunderstood.

• ligaya
  Aug 1, 2008 at 8:03 am

  No offense, BAMPZSKV FAN. You’re probably just kidding too, like I was. Let’s NOT start a rumor. I can imagine all heck breaking out with the gleeful tabs/blogs creating an uber-nightmare for the JPs. People believe the stupidest things about them now. I shudder to think what could happen - their humanitarian work could be compromised. I don’t want to be the one to have started the rumor. :-( :-( :-(

• ligaya
  Aug 1, 2008 at 8:04 am

  under mod: clarification of my clarification of Blackwater.

• BAMPZSKV FAN
  Aug 1, 2008 at 9:28 am

  I was jesting about blackwater. with their reputation they scare the be jesus out of us, which meant no one will cross them especailly the papz. I did not mean it litterally

• ligaya
  Aug 1, 2008 at 10:40 am

  Whew! :-) It’s all good, then. ;-)

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