Snooping paparazzi come to blows at Jolie-Pitt home
July 25, 2008 by Sherry
CNN ran a fairly disturbing story about a trespassing incident that occurred at Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s home in France on Friday. Two paparazzi dressed in camouflage and somehow managed to sneak onto the grounds surrounding the Jolie-Pitt chateau. There is nothing officially stated yet as to how long they were on the grounds or how many – if any – pictures had been taken by the time they were found.
However, when four of the guards at the chateau discovered the intruders, a physical fight broke out from both sides. Apparently no one was seriously hurt although both the guards and the paparazzi chose to file assault charges. The spokesperson for the police, Capt. Olivia Poupot, implied that it’s easy to imagine that it’s not unusual for people to come to blows if they discover someone illegally on their property, taking pictures.
A judge will still need to make a formal ruling as to whether or not further charges will be pressed against anyone. This comes right on the heels of Brad threatening legal action for photos that were taken of the family in their yard the other day. We can only imagine how angry he must be over the trespassing and how scary it must be for the family in general.
What is perhaps even more disturbing is this further statement made by Capt. Poupot that they aren’t overly concerned by or interested in this break-in.
“There are, [...] more important things than paparazzi taking photos of a glamor couple.”
I don’t understand this attitude at all. This isn’t “paparazzi taking photos of a glamor couple” at all. You could call it that if they were walking down the street and someone took pictures of them from the end of the block. This is two people who invaded Brad and Angelina’s privacy by trespassing on their private property, disguising themselves to be as inconspicuous as possible, and traipsing around their home. I would hope that everyone could take legal action against such a thing; being a celebrity should not matter. On top of that, there are children involved. Will it be serious enough if one of the Jolie-Pitt kids gets hurt? Will it be serious enough if they break right into the house itself and take pictures inside?
I think the police should be taking it more seriously than they are, especially if they want to promote their supposed anti-paparazzi laws that prevent these types of incidents from happening at all. I don’t care how badly someone wants to sneak the first pictures of Knox and Vivienne Jolie-Pitt – breaking into private property to do it is unacceptable and illegal and should be treated as such.
sunny
Jul 26, 2008 at 1:43 am
What happened at JJ was that Jared posted a thread about the rumor that the twins were born from IVF and it was immediately overrun with trolls. Recently JJ made the USMagazine web site a “trusted website”; I have no idea why. USMag hates the J-Ps and posts lies about them every chance they get. When he posted that thread it made me wonder if he is going to start posting every lie and rumor that USMag prints about this family. If I want to read lies and slander, I can read it on USMag’s own website. I don’t want to have to read it on JJ.
the limelighters go where they know the papz are, the Ivy and other hang outs. The JP’s rented a place with hundreds of acres of land and a house in the middle trying to have privacy for their family. They limelight on the red carpet. They don’t go out and look for it. They are concerned for the safety of their children. When they are out they keep their kids close by actually carrying them. They have asked politely to be left alone or have asked the papz to back of. They are NOT publicity hounds. When Shi was borned they know the papz would kill for a picture so decided to have People to do the spread and give to money to charity. They knew it would bring big bucks so why not control the issue. The only limelighting they do is red carpet and when they hit the talk shows to promote their upcoming movies. They are trying to be a family. One reason they travel so much with the kids is to keep the family tegether as one unit. They take turns working. Yes the kids get to travel but mainly they are a team of 8 now. They don’t take off for months leaving the kids with nannies. They care for them theirselves. Notice grandparents are with them now, not help. Example: Kevin Federline and Britany; bRITNEY HAS HER ISSUES BUT SHE is WITH THE KIDS. kEVIN GETS ALL THE FATHER AWARDS and he is never with them.
brad and Angie are dedicated parents and all the crap said about them wanting publicity is bogus. They just want to be left alone and spend safe, peaceful time with their family OUT of the limelight.
@ wow and neer
i hope you guys (and sherry) won’t mind that i explain a little about posts going through moderation (just to save you some trouble). just this past week, mine has gone through them a lot. i hope you’ll take my word that everyone goes through moderation once in a while, though some more than others. ligaya and victoria are our resident moderation queens
some words in a comment might trigger it to go through moderation. at times, it is just a glitch, and even sherry doesn’t know why even the most benign posts await moderation, but rest assured, sherry will clear them through. others also let sherry know that their posts are in moderation. also, the really bad ones (i.e. ones that promote racism or violence) automatically get moderated, and sherry sees to it that those aren’t cleared.
anywho, seeing as there are new posters here, i’m sure sherry won’t mind explaining this moderation thing again. i hope i have been of some help, too, though
What is the deal with JJ. I never commented on it anyway. for some reason my earlier comment is waiting moderation. I don’t know why.
Remember Julia Roberts running down the papz for taking pictures at a school.?
I know until I found this site I bought rag mags to follow Brad & Angie, they are negitive. They had it that angie was just using brad and he was following her like a puppy. That is so untru they have been a team from the start. And they always have an artical about Jen right after. I like her ok and have nothing negative to say about her and I also think if she had wanted kids she would still be with Brad. That is just my opinion, He just wanted kids sooo bad and now he has them.
Forgive my French, but that’s MERDE, Balance. Can you please prove your claims – by two reliable, verifiable, independent, legitimate, mainstream media, please? Absolutely no tabloids/gossip/blog comments – they’re complete fiction. In all reports I’ve read – legitimate and tabloid – I haven’t seen anything that corroborates your story. I’ve seen pictures of this worm and he had no wounds whatsoever. The police said that he and his companion didn’t seek medical help, whereas the Jolie-Pitt security had to be excused from work for 4 days.
http://content.usatoday.com/community/comments.aspx?id=32267468.story&p=2
According to reports, “This is not the first time Goursolas has run into trouble photographing celebrities. He was fined for chasing Monaco’s Princess Caroline in 1996, according to Agence France Presse.”
Another blog said The Worm Goursolas (with a criminal record) has stalked the Jolie Pitts before in other countries. Maybe he’s crossed the line into a real stalker from just a paparazzi stalker. I wouldn’t put it past him to have started the fracas to make it a huge deal to get press attention on him, the better to sell himself to photography agencies. He probably fancies himself quite the macho mercenary – but what macho man fights by biting someone’s finger instead of throwing a punch? And if he was losing buckets of blood, why didn’t he go to a doctor?
fan
Jul 26, 2008 at 4:34 am
I have too much trouble navigating JJB/Mega 5 board and they don’t have much to say, but that pic of Tyler Durden makes me hot
Hope,
I agree . I am 57 and believe me I would hate for people to know some of the crap I did in my twenties. Hey, I barely remember my twenties. Can you imagine being watched by the world while you are doing your crazies???
Angie is so open and when you are open the naysayers strike. I am a gemini and have a tendecy to tell it like it is and when I was young I sometimes paid for it. and God forbid you be beautiful, smart and a free spirit. When angie adopted Maddox I think it changed her life, it gave her direction and purpose and when she met brad it gave her a partner with the same goals. I read a comment the other day from her that said you can have great sex but if you don’t have the same goal and passion, it just won’t work. I think they (B&J) will last forever. They both value family, kids and each other.
Maybe that is our attraction to them, we all long for the same thing.
Besides the fact that what we know of Angelina’s and Brad’s character totally counters what Balance posted, there’s this:
He was in full camo, with a camo tent and drapery net and a camera the size of a cannon.. oh and a few days worth of food.
You know he started the fight with the security guards so that he could attempt to counter sue knowing full well he was going to be hit with criminal trespass.
I gotta find out what goes to moderation 2 out of thre got hit. what am I doing wrong?? please tell me sherry.
Under moderation (about half the time by my count
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“He was in full [camouflage], with a [camouflage] tent and drapery net and a camera the size of a cannon.. oh and a few days worth of food.”
Under moderation (about half the time
) – more info about Gourolas The Worm.
I usually visit this site and post on this site. But when I’ve been to JustJared and scrolled through the comments I’ve found the tone to be really harsh many times, there were tons of trolls and a lot of nonsensical comments. I guess there is no moderation going on there at all? It just seemed like a giant mudslinging fest.
Here people express themselves in full paragraphs. You can be critical, just not derogatory.
BAMPZS, *waves* I’m going to be 56 soon. There are a number of us “ladies of a certain age” here.
Umm, People is a legitimate entertainment magazine – not a tabloid. They fact-check, for one. They’ve sat on stories until they’re able to verify them. IMO, People is equivalent to TV Guide, Entertainment Weekly, and the former Premiere. Entertainment magazines are not identical to tabloids, although the tabs are all about celebrities.
Thank you Neela for the explanation. Well said.
Neela, thanks from me too!
The trespasser was not an innocent victim. There are photos of him after the “fight” and there is no blood. I agree with Ligaya, he is a worm. He has chased Brad and Angelina around the world and they were familiar with his tactics. He stalked Princess Caroline of Monaco and was fined for that. There are photos of the tent and the food. He was there for the long haul.
He also admitted to walking for five hours to get there. If you have to walk five hours just for a photo, you are either crazy or being well paid or both. Miraval is over 1200 acres and is a private vinyard. In the Getty photos, you can see he is at the vinyard (you can see the grapevines) being questioned. Therefore, he was on their property, not in the forest. Believe me, if Brad Pitt had come out to confront him, there would be photos everywhere. This jerk is a liar (in the photos he looked a bit “loopy” and is dangerous, like so many of those who rent trains, planes (helicopters) and automobiles just to stalk celebrities, especially this couple.
PS-I won’t give my age, but I am on the sunny side of 40. People should stop bringing up Angelina’s youthful indsicretions unless they are willing to be as honest about their own. She has grown so much, while still keeping a bit of her edge (flying, motorcycles), but is feminine and graceful as well.
OH MY!! TMZ has a pic of the camo papz that got busted by security~~He is holding his camera> You have got to be getting me!!! Anyway, he does not look to beat up to me, Too Bad!!! Lol!! I hope those 2 papz get jailed for their invasion which I know is highly unlikely, but wouldn,t it be nice to see them get punished in a way that might cause a positive ripple effect??
I was very disturbed when I saw this story yesterday while at work. I was appalled by the local police spokeswoman (can’t recall if she’s a police captain or not) saying the Jolie-Pitts should get more security as this kind of thing isn’t important enough and distracts from real crime in the area like ‘robberies’ and ‘muggings.’ I don’t know what the ‘Private Property’ laws are in France, but if Brad and Angie want to stay there–and I for one believe ‘any’ place right now is better than in the U.S.–perhaps they should hire armed security and make a formal statement warning everyone about the consequences of being caught on their property.
The problem with sueing the Paps is that the photos are ‘out there’ pending the outcome of the trail, unless the judge is agreeable to a band during the trial.
What a shame. These two incredible people certainly do not deserve this kind of treatment.
wow & neer, no prob
I wish JP’s would return to NOLA because when/if you think on it, it seems the only place where we’ve really never heard of them being put in a situation like they have here. France was supposed to be that place were the laws would allow for more freedom from this kind of thing, and now this. Another thing about them living in NOLA is that it’s citizens seem very protective of them. I remember reading about a bar owner kicking a reporter out of their establishment for trying to take photos of the couple, and I’ve heard of people being asked in the neighborhood about them and been giving wrong info on purpose, or gotten the silent treatment.
I think they’re a great team, and it’s times like now when I know Angelina realizes the essence of this man. He’s going to protective his family, and those who don’t know better ask somebody lol.
I dunno…I feel their pain (as does everyone else here obviously). I mean, the South of France is a pretty nice place to live. So I can see the attraction. And it is more low key than Hollywood or New York City, which are the other celeb hot spots. I think perhaps the problem is that Brad and Angie have attracted a level of media attention (and obsession) that is pretty much unprecedented. So I don’t think the French local police are used to having to worry about people going to extreme measures (once people have installed pretty tight security systems) to get into people’s property. France is just more low key in general. There is less crime (less poverty) so it’s not organized like a security state. Whereas there are parts of the U.S. and the third world that have wealthy high security zones, that are ultra (insanely so in my opinion) protected. So that it perhaps the problem. Yeah the laws are tighter, but I guess the enforcement is weaker because they are not used to this. This is just my hunch anyway, I could be wrong.
Passerby, so happy you didn”t delete your thoughts. They are very well spoken and understandable. Welcome to all past JJ readers, this is a great place to come to each day.
Is it any wonder they went to Africa for Shiloh’s birth…People there are to busy trying to feed their family and stay alive to give a shit what famous, beautiful people are in the hut next door. They just need to buy some little funky place in no where land (like Idaho or Montana)and not let the world know where the hell they are and maybe they could get some peace. France is full of rich beautiful people so there are tons of photogs and paps hanging around. Demi Moore and her family live in Ketchun,Id. and they seem to live pretty normal lives.
Maybe Brad should use some of his “Fight Club “and “Snatch” fighting experience and kick some french ass!!!! GO BRAD!!!!!!!!!
ligaya….I SO enjoy your posts. I’ve been a silent fan since you started posting. I cannot get over you saying that not ONLY did they have camouflage clothes but a camouflage tent!! I also agree w/People being a legit magazine. AJ & BP seem to be very grasious to their fans. I hope this doesn’t stop them, but, I understand it.
Also, Sherry wanted to give a shout out and a big thank you for everything you post for us. I don’t know how you do with your family and all, but it is so appreciated.
retuor wrote at jjb
It appears that “The Fighter” has not been greenlighted, and that RoboCop is next for Aronofsky.
So we may really see Brad in “Inglorious Bastards.
BMGM had been talking to several filmmakers about rebooting the franchise and started meeting with Aronofsky a month ago. At the time, Aronofsky, who is repped by CAA, was finishing up postproduction on “The Wrestler” and hoping to move forward with “The Fighter” at Paramount. But greenlight delays resulting from potential SAG labor strife and actor scheduling left him open to wooing.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ifcce08ba05c71072018830821bb10d71?imw=Y
Thanks retuor!
****
The Fighter can be after RoboCop. Aronofsky took the huge project for MGM.
Thank you Sherry for this update. I was away last weekend and came back not feeling well so I am really behind here. When I read the other wonderful posts including familiar names from JJ’s site, I must agree that wearing a camouflage outfit and putting the same on someone’s camera has the “intent” of not only tresspassing, but to take long lens photos of someone’s children/property. Even if they are 500 yards away, it is still trespassing. They are money hungry. I actually saw those photos at Laineygossip.com the first time. Shiloh was sitting on Brad’s lap riding some type of motorcycle or golfcart. The caption says, what does Brad and Britney have in common? Of course the tabs will have “great” stories with that unfortunately. Also, thank you Sherry for the great video of “I am who I am.” I recognized the blogger who made it from JJ’s. I also think that the U.S. have wild paps but the laws are more strict.
Balance
Jul 26, 2008 at 6:16 am
Miraval is not a private property there is no barrier all around it.
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Just wanna make it clear that I’m pretty damn sure that the pap was not on some public woodland but on private property. But no one here needs to take my word for it because this is how Chateau Miraval describes itself:
The estate, situated at an altitude of 350 meters (1150 ft.), extends to 400 HA (1000 acres) with 30 HA (75 acres) devoted to vines. The vineyards flourish on the valley floor, protected by the surrounding forest of evergreen and white oak, and parasol, aleppo and maritime pine.
http://www.miraval.com/en/domaine/index.html
Now, 1000 acres of which only 75 acres are devoted to vineyards leaves you 925 acres for other users include some housing, barns etc for the winery. The bulk of Chateau Miraval is WOODLANDS.
YOu may also recall that there was an article not long after the JP’s rented the place where the hunters said that they hoped they would be allowed into the woodland to hunt game during the season. I’m sure of course they will be because the hunting seasons is in the fall and the JP’s would already be back at work. Now I don’t know whether Chateau Miraval has any fences or not but really, why would the hunters say that they hoped to be able hunt there if it weren’t fenced off?
Several years ago, I visited France with friends and was taken to a lovely hunting lodge in France. The lodge was surrounded by woodlands which were private property and it was fenced off. The owner made most of his money during the hunting season when he licensed people to come to his property to hunt for wild boar, deer and other game and of course, stay on his property (we were there off season). To get to the lodge, you’d have to walk through acres of woodlands.
It seems that the pap KNEW that he was on Chateau Miraval land and not public land so he’s just a lying scum bag and in deed, what would you expect of a pap who has once been charged with stalking another celebrity?
Looking at Chateau Miraval’s website, it seems to me that it does not do door sales and sells only to known distributors or visitors by appointment. This means people like you and I can’t just walk into the winery and ask to sample their wines and buy a dozen bottles or so to take home.
This is the way with most prestigious wineries. AGain, during this visit to France with friends, our friends got appointments for us to go to some prestigious wineries. For these highly prestigious wineries, it’s not exactly like doing a tour of the Napa or the Hunter Valleys.
Thanks for the words Ligaya, I could agree more. When I read Balances comments all I could think of was, “WHAT”!. Are you kidding! Man where did that come from? Not private property! What better way to draw attention away from yourself (Luc Goursolas & Marianne Saint-Arroman) than to cry foul when you are caught red-handed comminting a crime. To accuse the people who caught you of the very thing you did and then threatened to sue. Beautiful! Come to think of it, Unblanced, opps Balanced is really probably Goursolas, because no one in their right mind would make such unbelivalbe, unsubstantial & uneducated statements!!!
“Another” Sherry, thanks so much for really nice feedback. I think one of the hallmarks of Pittwatch, besides respect and civility, is how knowledgeable and articulate people are. Lots of times I learn something new or a different way of looking at things. Plus I often get ideas of how to defend Angelina and her family’s honor in other blogs.
JJB, a popular bumper sticker around here is “How did *our* oil get under *their* sand?” Anyway, the Middle East is a very complicated issue, and we understand less about the Middle East than we do about Africa – which isn’t as much as we need to. Good grief, we don’t even know U.S. geography and civics. I just saw a great movie called Persepolis about a little girl (spunkier than Juno!) growing up in Iran during all the changes in the government. I learned more from watching that movie – the culture, history and relations with the U.S. – than from the lectures I’ve gone to or the little reading I’ve done.
Passerby, I was looking for your post late one night and couldn’t find it even though I went forward and backward on the thread. Found it.
@Elizabeth
*If they release the pic they are damned!
*If they DON’T they are damned!
Which is the better evil, you decide. Since you are so moralistically above everybody else, especially Brad and Angie and KNOW what’s best.
There is NO prove whatsoever that they sold the pics of the twins, just malicious gossip from the usual suspects: E!, Us Weekly etc. Gagle People Mag said they have NOT heard from B&A re selling the pics.
There’s nothing wrong with them selling. Better a charity get the money than a sleazy naked child picture taking pap!
Angie loves the attention…wth??? When was the last time you saw her go to a popular HW restaurant or nightclub or bar for pics to be taken. They rarely go out unless it’s work related.
**Sherry please delete this if you think it’s too rude, BUT I had to get that off my chest.
Ok! now I can comment on the paps and the blows.
I also hope they sue the pap agency and IT for pics. the C&D letters went out but I think not quickly enuff to affect IT. But they should sue them for publishing pics of their kids naked.
The police woman obviously does NOT know her duties. And it’s shame that they hoped for peace and privacy post babs arrival but instead they get this hoopla.
Halle and Nicole said they won’t sell/release pics, Halle’s backyard was invaded by pap or two and they took pics. She’s SUEING them. Let’s see how Nicole is going to fair….
So why isn’t everyone up in her face, saying it’s all her fault and she brought on her self because she’s seeking attention by NOT releasing a pic of HER baby?
@Bless
I like Halle Berry, but the double standard has me furious. It’s “oh, I really respect her” but when Brad and Angelina get upset it is because of the money they may or may not be receiving, not that they are having their privacy invaded. I would rather not see them for weeks than have them tortured by maniacs.
And this guy is really milking it in France. He is walking around with a huge bandage on his head and the paparazzi there are on his side. Funny, in the first photos, there is no blood, or injury. I hope we don’t get this in the states, but I am sure some sleazy tabloid will pay him for his “story”.
I think police must protect betther them if papz disturb my favorite family.