The Jolie-Pitt family is out of NYC
I hope everyone had a lovely weekend. It’s official that Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, and all the kids have left New York City. I assume this means that Brad has finished filming his scenes for Burn After Reading, though I could be wrong. However, the family has headed out to Los Angeles so that Angelina can begin work on The Changeling and I can’t imagine he’d want to be flying from one coast to the other on a regular basis.
I’m sure the entire Internet will be loaded down with people complaining that Maddox has no consistency in his education. On the one hand, I see where these people are coming from. After all, he does leave new friends behind when he has to switch schools, and I can imagine that must be hard. Still, the education itself is consistent since it’s always the same school (Lycee Francais), which was designed specifically for children of people who travel a lot, and he always has his parents with him. If he always stayed in one location, he’d end up being without either his mom or his dad for months on end, so it’s pretty understandable that they want to keep the family unit together as much as they possibly can. It must be hard making those kinds of choices, especially when people are contantly criticising.
I hope to be able to update you all with new photos out of L.A. as soon as possible.
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65 opinions for The Jolie-Pitt family is out of NYC
Andrea
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:29 am
If they tutored them at home (or whever they were, just *with* them) someone would complain.
If they had a home base and he went to a regular school and Angie and Brad left them there occasionally, someone would complain.
*sigh*
I think the kids are lucky and they are getting a great education just by having them for parents.
Ally
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:45 am
i see your point SHerry. but having no “home” to settle down is worse for a child. it´s impossible for him to get friends with other kids and he has no possibility of a constant education (i know there are many lycees francais but through all the moving he has interruptions). and it´s interesting that most of the famous parents are able to give their kids a stable home. parents usually let their own interests aside to offer their kids a happy and peaceful home.
ANdrea said it right, it always could be worse…but in that case it also could be a lot better.
Angelina always said that her kids come first….but then i think it´s interesting that she makes one movie after another. and then she has her charity projects that take a lot of time. she should beginn to think about her priorities.
ligaya
Oct 15, 2007 at 9:04 am
Amen, Sherry & Andrea. After I get back from my big day with the Jolie-Pitts, I’ll share about other families & kids whose nomadic lives are normal & healthy.
Posting from New Orleans - haven’t fallen off the face of the earth, been lurking ‘cause tres tres busy prepping for NOLA family trip (as suggested by Angie & Brad, Spike Lee, Wynton Marsallis, and other New Orleanians) . It’s part fabulous NO vacation, part doing our bit about Katrina, and part Jolie-Pitt homage/pilgrimage. Today is dedicated to the Jolie-Pitts – we’ll walk by their house in the French Quarter, drop by their neighborhood bar and local bakery, and drop by Brad/Global Green’s visitor center if it’s ready.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 10:03 am
I LOVE THE WAY ANGEL HANDLES THE CROWDS OF PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO SEE HER AND SHE’S EVEN NICE TO THE PAPARAZZ! CUTE MAD IS SO GETTING USE TO IT! SHE LOOKS AMAZING! BEUTIFUL AND SO PREGNANT, WELL I SURE HOPE SHE IS.
Sophia
Oct 15, 2007 at 10:15 am
Sherry said it already - the Internet is abuzz with people being upset about Maddox being taken out of yet another school. And I must say that I do feel sorry for him. I know it´s important for him to be around his parents, but…. isn´t it too much? He will never be able to make long term friends. I have a daughter his age, and I can see first-hand how important it is for her at this age to go out and make her own friends (not friends who are kids of her parents´ friends). At that age they are starting to make their own social connections, making their first moves at independence and friends start become much more important than before. Parents become a little less important, and by the time they are teenagers, the peer group is even more important.
We are really tight as a family, but I find it very important for my child to grow up with the ability to make these social connections, to learn how to form her own friendships. For her growth as a person, this is an absolute necessity.
So…. I´m not saying that what AJ and BP are doing is wrong. I think they are in a predicament. I can see how they want to be together as a family, and this is so precious, too. But their children seem to live an isolated life. They will never really be integrated into a school, or have the chance to make and keep friendships with kids outside of their own family network. Maddox may have the same studies, the same agenda, but not the same friends, the same teachers, etc. , which is equally important to his development as a person. Everything is temporary, the schools, the teachers, the classmates, the beds, the places….. He´s missing out on a lot of fun things in life.
I know this will not go down very well with most fans, as critisizing anything BP and AJ do is almost a sacrilege. But I think even if you´re a fan, you don´t have to agree with everything they do. I agree with Sherry, that it must be a difficult choice to make for them, but maybe it isn´t even. They seem to think that what they offer their children is the best possible education - to travel and see the world and different cultures….. I agree, but as I said above that´s not the ONLY thing that makes up a good education. I think both AJ and BP love the nomadic lifestyle in any case, and their children are far too young to know any different. It may work for them, but I still feel sad for kids who cannot just spontaneously meet with friends for an afternoon soccer game, or go to the zoo together. It´s an isolated life if you´re always ONLY around your family. And it won´t prepare you so well for life outside this safety net.
That´s my opinion, and I hope that no-one will start bashing me for it. It is only my opinion, that´s all. So please - stay calm everyone.
Mary Ann
Oct 15, 2007 at 10:40 am
I believe there is a period last year when Madd went to the school out in LA, so possibly he would know alot of his classmates.
And I agree with all of the above, there is always going to be someone who will complain about whatever. They love their children and would never do anything that would hurt them. It will be harder to take their weekend outings out in LA because the paps are worse than in NY. But maybe they will spend alot of time at the home where they had Madd’s birthday party.
sunshine
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:05 am
I have to disagree with this one. If you remember how you were as a child, you would remember how important children’s friends are to them. No child that age wants their parents as their only friend. I am a traveling nurse. I do 13 week contracts at a time throughout the United States. I have to say, it was very hard on my daughters. As soon as they were just settling in their environment and meeting new friends they were uprooted. So no matter how great of a parent you think that you are, you will never take the place of a child bonding with their own peers. My youngest daughter became very depressed. Although, I made sure my assignments were in an area that the can do kids things, such as Busch Gardens, Disney Land, beach coasts, none of that was enough when they had to leave their friends behind. I just can not believe that this is having a positive effect on these children.
BTW, I was always housed in corporate housing. We were in fully furnished apartments or condos that had everything in them. We were not in hotels. Children needs consistency, and there is no other way around this.
kim
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:16 am
Other acting couples manage to keep their chidlren’s home lives undisrupted, through forward planning, organisation and prioritising. I am sure that we can all think of many examples. I’m not judging but I think that there is some substance to the negative comments to the fact that these children are raised in hotels.
Bel
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:20 am
I think the most important thing is a strong stable family and Maddox obviously has that in spades! Being loved and secure gives kids a lot more confidence to deal with other situations.
ida
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:49 am
Very true Bel and one more important thing is that Mad is hetty an education! It dosent matter were or how many school he is changing.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:33 pm
YOU CAN RING MY BEL! YOU’RE SO RIGHT! THAT’S WHAT ANGELINA AND BRAD SAID IN A MAGAZINE INTERVIEW.
Carrie
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:37 pm
It just does matter. I’m glad they have each other and glad they provide an example of a loving family which cares for and supports their children, but they do it at the expense of the stability of keeping them in one school, and they do it at the expense of proven importance of continuity in education. Now, maybe when the kids are older (he’s still only 6), they will keep them in one school.
I like them and think they may a nice family, but suggesting that moving around and taking him in and out of schools doesn’t matter is just contrary to the studies and sociological evidence, and all your thinking they are beautiful and wonderful and loving aside, that doesn’t change the facts. Sorry.
Love BAMPZS
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Kim,
BAMPZS are the most hunted family on the planet. John F. Kennedy and Carolyn Bassette Kennedy were hunted down like the Jolie-Pitts. If anyone is from NYC, they have probably saw the paparazzi staked out in from of the JFK jr.’s tribecca Loft. As he walked out of his building doors and got on his bike and road away, the paps snapped away. Carolyn Bissette hated the paparazzi, she became depressed and the couple continually had marital problems because of the constant stalking. At one point, it was reported on page 8 and they showed the video on access hollywood where John F. Kennedy asked the paparazzi to stand back and not follow her because. Of course they didn’t listen. It was a shame because the constant harrassment (photagraphers calling their names to get a money shot) and constant stalking, in the reason so many celebrities learn to fly their own planes to avoid the constant stalking, even in the airport. Unfortanantly, JFK died flying his own plane. The difference between JKF jr and Carolyn Bassette is that he grew up with it. I remember when he couldn’t pass the bar. He flunked the bar 3 times. While at Brown university, every beautiful girl he dated was in the news. Like JFK, jr the Jloie-Pitts are like royalty. Quite frankly any celebrity, royalty, or personality that has a beautiful family will be plastered on the tabliods and gossip columns. In Europe, Wills and Harry are always in the tabloids. If they were not tall and attractive, I don’t think they would sell as many tabloids and therefore would not be stalked as much. I remember in the 80’s grace kelly’s kids were always in the European tabloids. Back then they were young and gorgous. Now Carolyn’s children are followed by the paparazzi, they to are beautiful. In Europe the Beckams are as popular as the Jolie-Pitts.
Most celebrities are beautiful in their movies but when they are not filming, they gain waite and they are not good looking. For example, Ben Afflect looks horrible when he is not in a movie. When he is filming a movie he is looses weight and looks great. When his wife was pregnant she looked horrible. Then their daughter violet is not a cute child. She looks quite odd. The public is interested in celebrities who are rich, beautiful and interesting. Because the average consumer has a boaring life, hates their job and is over weight and unsatisfied with the way they look. So we bask in fantasy. It’s the reason we watch soap operas and love shows like Desperate housewives where everyone looks perfectly starved with no body fat, perfect makeup and hair. Really, come on, when Rosie had real people like celebrities without makeup or airbrushing,it didn’t sell at the newstand. As a result Rosie left the Rosie magazine because she was angry about the new creative direction. She justdidn’t understand that average consumer wants to perfection even it dosn’t reflect them. I said all that to say that unless the Jolie-Pitts start adopting ugly kids, and Angelina and Brad gain alot weight and loose weight they can forget about us loosing interst in them. Shilou is the least attractive child of their children, and their was wax figure made of her. Elizabeth Taylor, Audry Hepburn, Ingrid Burdman, Warren Beaty,Rock Hudson,Ali McGraw, Elvis Presley, Marlon Brando, Tom Cruise, Liza Minelli, Jonny Depp, Tony Curtis, Steve McQueen, Paul Newman, Natalie Wood, Jane Fonda, Ryan Oneal, Burt Reynalds, Frank Senatra, the rat pack, the brat pack, the new rat pack, kim novak, and Fay Donaway we all followed by paparrazzi and their lives were reported in the tabloids and gossip tabs when they were young and beautiful. As they aged, there was less interest in them and a new crop of celebrities eventually replaced them. I remember when sly stallone was mega star and he and his girlfriends were plastered on every tabloid. Now that he is 60 and his face is melting no one even thinks about him. The difference between these celebrities and Princess Diane and JJFK and Jaqueline Kennedy is that they used their celebrity for humanist causes. Which ultimately makes them a brand; their beauty is the packaging and their causes are the “products” that gain public approval and support. that branding image makes us love them until they tarnish the brand like OJ Simpson, Brittany Spears or Whitny huston. When the celebrity has children, the parents imprint themselves on their children and the children end up as charming as the parents. If the children are beautiful and attractive, then it validates that product. We the consumer are as interested in their beautiful children as we are with the celebrity. The Jolie-Pitts have the same adorable from fans and admires that Princess Diane and her boys, and the JFK/ Jacquiline Kennedy Onasis/JFK, jr., had. The reaons They were all beautiful and they promoted humanistic causes. I am saying all this becauseJolie-Pitts will be in the news even when Angelina and Brad get old, if their children are beautiful as adults we will still read about them and buy the tabloids and newspapers they are in. The Jolie-Pitts are like royalty. Beauty coupled with humanity is the key. Steven Speilburg has a rainbow family with children of different ethnicities but his wife is the only extraudinarily beautiful person in the family so the public dosn’t follow them. When he won his Oscar and I think 4 of his kids came on stage with him. If they were all beautiful, then we would be watching them too. People keep saying Angie is displaying her kids. If they were not beautiful we wouldn’t care.
Carrie
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:06 pm
That was suppose to be “make a nice family”:)
ligaya
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:09 pm
I’m sorry too, Carrie, but your facts are not absolute facts. You’re free to have your beliefs, but please also believe you can be wrong – possibly/probably – and that others’ opinions can be right. Different opinions can even be right at the same time. There was a great thread here discussing this “stability” question not too long ago; as I remember, it didn’t come down to an “either/or” position, rather there were many nuanced opinions. I’m on my way to walk the French Quarter and pass by the Jolie-Pitt house in New Orleans, otherwise I’d elaborate. BTW, different studies had different conclusions on this “stability” thing – some coming squarely against your opinion. Sorry.
Love BAMPZS
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Sorry for the extrordinarily long post above. But I forgot to mention that Angelina didn’t tell the public she was adopting. As a matter of fact she and her father fell out because he told the press and she wanted to keep it private. He was asked if he and Angelina were doing well and volunteered that she had adopted a child and he hopes to see him soon. Angelina was filming in Namivia, which is were she recieved him. The African women showed her how to tend to him and his needs, nurturing, feeding, and changing him. They showed her how he signaled that he needed something, which was crying:-). As a result Angelina now says that he taught her to be a mother. He told her when he wanted something was hungery etc. The same happened Zahara. They went to Ethiopia without a press release. All the tabloids were guessing, saying she was going to adopt in Russia. The really funny thing is that she covered Zahara with her hands when she was little so that the flashes would frighten her, and give her maternal protection and security. But once Zahara got past her illness and gained a little weight she was pusher those big eyes through her Moms hands to see what was going on outside of the baby carrier. When I would see pictures of them , I often thought she is an inquisitive little girl; Really Noisy:-). Now Pax is the same way, so nosy always staring with a question mark on his face. I am hoping that sweet Shiloh will soon get some energy also, because she acts like she has autism, Shiloh is so unresponsive, which appears to be a developmental delay for her age. She gets caught up in things, and dosn’t pay attention to the movement and accitement around her, which is very charicteristic of autism. I hope she dosn’t. Normally, the younger child learn faster and than their older siblings because they have the additional stimulus in the home that the older children didn’t have. So the younger child speaks and walks quicker because they are trying to keep up with the older child. Secondly, the older child is always talking to them. As a result the younger child learns language from their parents and simblings which makes them build a vocabulary quicker than their older sibling did. It just seems that with Shilou having two siblings at home from birth and now a third she is too slow. She should be shouting out and trying run around like Zahara and Pax. She should be grabbing things from Zahara while in the stroller so that she can see what it is, but instead she twiddling her toes and saying nothing. I hope that if she does have autism that address it early, like Jenny McCarthy. The Jolie-Pitts travel alot and 1 out of every 100 vascine shots cause autism. It like russian rullet, one minute the is responsive, and after being vacinated they wake up the next day focused on an object for 3 hours.
kim
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Carrie - your view was balanced, and I agree. I can’t believe I’ve started writing in this forum, I’m going to stop now.
ligaya
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:24 pm
P.S. I just have this thing about declarative fiats from on high. Angelina & Brad are absolutely, totally wrong in their child-rearing practices and their kids will pay. Women are inferior to men. Society should be organized with kings and the monarchy having absolute rule over ordinary serfs and slaves. These were ‘reasonable’ beliefs at one time.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:31 pm
HEY! LOVE BAMPZZZZZZ! WHAT! ARE YOU DRINKING AND SMOKING AT THE SAME TIME!
lidia
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:32 pm
This is my first post on this site, and I decided to write after reading the lovebampsz post above. I am absolutely stunned then someone would write a post like that based on a few photos of a few seconds of baby’s life and talk about autism. Just shocked!!
Love BAMPZS
Oct 15, 2007 at 1:50 pm
It will matter more when they are teenagers. Tweens prefer to be with their friends. However, the expensive schools that Maddox attends has children with parents as wealthy as his, so that will not be a problem. He won’t loose his friends by moving. Quite frankly, there are children that travel as much the Jolie-Pitts. Homes in different countries, the south of france for summer, Aspen or Switzerland for skiing during the winter, a week in Paris to celebrate Bastille day, Dubai for new years, Italy for the month of August, South Hamptons for month of June, Surfing in Hawaii or Australia in October, attending fashion weeks in different countries with their mothers, Costa Rica fo thanks giving, and the list goes on. I think that the Jolie-Pitts will develop friendships with children like them that in the same economic level were traveling to another country is like a normal kids riding to the suburbs with their mom. Kids like Nicole Richie, paris hill, Kim Stuart and Kim Kardasian and the list of other socialites featured in the NYC society pages didn’t have the same restrictions that the average kid their age had. Come on last summer the Jolie-Pitts vacationed with Marian and Adam Peale in a rented French castle. Then Adam Pearle, Maddox and Pax were running around NYC with their nannies and body gauds while their parents were working that afternoon. I beleieve there is a cute picture of them at that time on his site.
My point being, they will not be like poor army brats. They will be worldly, intelligent, sophisticated, citzens of the world with friends everywhere. Quite frankly, I wish I had the opportunity to see the world as they do. Unfortunately, I am trapped in my life; broke. So I enjoy living vicariously throught the Jolie-Pitts by reading this blog and discovering the man new places they’ve been that I’ve never heard of.
Love BAMPZS
Oct 15, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Mavi,
I wish my life were that exciting to be smoking something..LoL. If it were, then I wouldn’t be on this site, following the chronicles of the Jolie-Pitt adventures.LoL.
After reading the post today, I thought wow they have nothing better to do so I’ll share my unedited version of my looooooooooooooong opinion.
Seriously, I was long winded today. uber long, toooo long, so long it all got lost in the spelling errors.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 2:57 pm
I apologize love B, but what in the world gave you the idea that shiloh might have autism!, why would you even think that! i have a brother that has autism and i am very proud of him! what i want to know is, how in the world you know that Shiloh speaks or walks funny you or me are not there to watch or hear her! you think you can tell just by looking at pictures! c’omon! all i see is a healthy beautiful little girl! same as her brothers and sister and by the way you spell autism just right.
Jessie
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:10 pm
The problem with saying that it is wrong for Maddox to change schools often because of the lack of stability is that the definition of stability in that statement is very narrow. Stability can be defined my many aspects and the stability versus security argument can be made.
Maddox sees his parents everyday, knows that he won’t be left behind, is loved and presumably cared for the same way all the time. I think that is pretty stable. His environment changes and that sucks, but so do a lot of kids. Kids of parents in the military travel a lot and there are plenty of careers that require travel. Staying in the same place as the definition of stability is just flawed. Plenty of children never move a day in their lives and barely see their parents between school, work, the nanny, and daycare. In my personal opinion when a kid is that young the people they rather be with the most is their family.
cee
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Why do people think that they know what goes on in this family from photos and tabloids?
Janie
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Thank you Mavi for saying that. We don’t live with this family and we cannot state anything like the above based on photographs alone.
I work with children and it takes tests to determine any type of learning disability and those tests have to be given in person, not based on a few still photos. It is irresponsible to state such things that are not based upon fact, only opinion.
We have seen a very short snap shot of this family and all the judgemental comments are truly unbelievable. I did not know so many psychologists were on the internet that Maddox and his “stability” and Shiloh’s issues can be asertained from what we see in pictures only.
Just enjoy the pictures, since that is all they are.
Thank you for this site, which for the most part is very positive in the comments.
Bee
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:28 pm
@ Carrie I agree too.
@ligaya This doesnt mean that AB are totaly wrong, nobody seid that. And I think nobody here is in the position to say that. They just want to be with their kids which is understandable and lovely… Stability from parents is important. But dont forget the social competence, its very important to learn that with classmates.
I think we have to wait. Because Ange said that they want to settle down. May they are working so hard now, just to take of some years in the near future to be there only for the kids. Is Madd in first class? Or still in preschool???
He ist still very young, of course friendships are getting more important in school. But its not too late. I thought Ange tries to arrange playdates, like with M. Pearls son, so he has the chance to develop an longlasting friendship.
allaboutme
Oct 15, 2007 at 3:50 pm
“As soon as possible” is not soon enough. My world is at a standstill until I know where they are! Please, Sherry, hurry up. There is nothing more important that where Brangie is.
Susan
Oct 15, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Immunisations do NOT cause autism and it is really irresponsible to suggest they do as people can be put off having their children protected from dangerous diseases like mumps, measles, whooping cough and polio.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 4:00 pm
ALLABOUTME! YOU SOUND SELFISH? JUST KIDDING!
Passerby
Oct 15, 2007 at 4:19 pm
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/10/15/angelina-jolie-outstanding-performance/#comments
Congratulations on Angie’s film award for best actress.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 4:31 pm
YEAH! CONGRATULATIONS TO ANGE AND HER FAMILY! I JUST GOT THAT INFORMATION, SHE IS SO A WONDERFUL ACTRESS AND BRAD IS ALSO A GREAT ACTOR, BUT BEST OF ALL THEY ARE BOTH GREAT HUMANITARIES,ALL THEIR KIDS SHOULD BE SO PROUD OF MOM & DAD.
mavi
Oct 15, 2007 at 4:37 pm
THANK YOU SUSAN!
isacutie
Oct 15, 2007 at 6:21 pm
moving always takes a toll on people, but i think angie and brad will always make sure that they do as little disruption as possible to their and their children’s lives. i’m not saying i’m fit to judge, but perhaps they are making their children aware of why they need to move all the time. and they did say that when the children are a bit older, they hope to stay in one place, that’s the reason for all the work now. let’s just hope that this family, despite all the moves, will be able to find peace and happiness always. they look like they’re working hard at it, let’s try and make it easy for them in any way we can, no matter how trivial it may seem.
Carrie
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Again, I think they are providing a lot of wonderful things, and who can judge what a lifetime of travel to exotic locals can mean for a person. I mean the Beatles have very little formal education and they were still incredibly smart people who learned everywhere they went. However, and Ligaya I’m not talking about opinion but rather educational research (I’ll put my ten years as an educator and hundreds of hours of inservices about educational success into my position on this) - the studies are sound and continuity is very important to learning.
gena
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:28 pm
HELLO GOOD PEOPLE, STOP THE FIGHTING, JUST LOVE THEM WITH ALL YOUR HEART. NO MORE BAD MOUTHING TO EACH OTHER. BE GROWN UP. IN REALITY NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IN EVERY ONE’S LIVES/ NO MORE THAN BRAD AND ANGIE’S LIVES. TABLOIDS REWRITE EVERY THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN JUST FOR THE MONEY. SO JUST LOVE THEM PLEASE. BECAUSE I DO. CONGRATS TO ANGIE; FOR HER AWARD AS THE BEST FEMALE PERFORMANCE. SHE IS GOOD ANYWAY. I LOVE YOU GOOD PEOPLE
Susan
Oct 15, 2007 at 8:48 pm
I guess the alternative to their nomad lifestyle is for either both parents to give up working in film or for one parent to go off for weeks and months leaving the other at the home base. Maybe as all the kids get to school age that will be necessary, but surely keeping the family together is the best choice they can make for as long as possible!
irma
Oct 15, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Brad & Ange are giving the best education they can give to their children.Traveling all over the world, showing the kids the different cultures, races, religions etc.. Those are the best things their kids can have. I’m sure they have tutors, education is a priority for Brad & Ange so don’t worry about the kids getting enough education, they are in good hands, they have the best parents a child can ask for. I do miss the whole family, but I’m sure they are resting comfortably before Ange goes back to work. So proud of Ange being recognized as Film best actress . Oscar next year for sure. Love the Jolie-Pitt’s.
Lucy
Oct 15, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Okay, the travelling portion of our favorite family have been discussed before. It has been exhausted too at JJ’s site. I do not want to write another long explanation of their lifestyle and how they handle the education of their children. I am a school psychologist and have been with the department of education in California for 16 years now. Learning comes in many forms, such as private tutoring, home schooling, we even have wagons who pick up street children and homeless kids of school age and give them instruction in our county van, a type of alternative education. Brad and Angie of all people are the advocates of education and it is common sense they are aware of this “continuity” issue. At this age, their children have the basic curriculum in reading, writing and arithmetic. Socialization is important too. They make many friends in their travels. They can write to each other and practice rhetoric and composition. Most celebrities especially child celebrities went through private tutoring. Maddox, Zahara, Pax can have private tutors too but Brad and Angie prefer they socialize with their peers. As long as they are with Mom and Dad, they will be well adjusted kids for now. Peace.
Bloom
Oct 16, 2007 at 12:46 am
Sherry, thanks for a wonderful site! It’s great to be able to catch up on the latest with this truly diverse and beautiful family.
I feel compelled to delurk and offer my two cents to this online debate on Maddox’ education. I grew up travelling alot, following my dad on his diplomatic career. True, we didn’t travel as much as the JP kids but every 2-3 years, we would uproot ourselves and enrol in new school environment. In the space of 7 years, my siblings and I had gone through 3-4 different schools. And believe me, there is NOTHING damaging at all about the whole experience. Sure I have to bid goodbyes to newly found friends and have to start the same procedure again and again, but I was able to meet so many different types of people and culture, it was a real eye-opener. To be able to see the world when you’re young is such an amazing and life-enriching experience. My english also improved, and I learnt to speak 3 other foreign languages (english is not my mother tongue). Learning isn’t just limited to the classroom environment. I envy the JP kids their opportunity and wish them all the best. With the education and upbringing they’re receiving, they will grow up to be culturally sensitive, balanced individual who will make a difference to the world, like their parents.
Matilda
Oct 16, 2007 at 1:33 am
Maddox is still VERY young, and it’s a little premature to be getting up in arms over his stability (or lack of) right now. He’s six years old - that’s an age of adventure, creation, playing with your brothers and sisters, dirt-bike riding with dad, learning to tie your shoelaces with mom.
Speaking from a developmental psychological perspective, the most critical period of social adjustment, when stable relationships with peers become important, is around 8 or 10 years of age. The importance of peers for most children tends to increase after that age. But of course, rules are made to be broken and there are exceptions to everything. There are as many different parenting styles as there are parents in the world, and what works for one child won’t necessarily work for another. Angelina and Brad KNOW Maddox, which is something none of us can say. I’m absolutely positive that they will do everything in their power to let him grow up as a happy, well-adjusted little boy, and same for each of their children.
I read a quote from Angie recently where she said that Maddox and Pax are so eager to travel that they’re always asking when they’re going to go somewhere new, lol. They get bored of being somewhere for too long, and want to tackle the next adventure.
Sophia
Oct 16, 2007 at 3:40 am
Irma, you say “they are giving the best education they can give to their children.Traveling all over the world, showing the kids the different cultures, races, religions etc.. Those are the best things their kids can have.”
Yes, but not only.
Besides, how much do the kids (esp. the little ones) really get to see of the different cultures, religions etc.?? They see lots of airports, posh hotels, and even if they go out, they´re surrounded by security people and paparazzi. I bet they don´t get to see much of the above mentioned at all. So where´s the benefit for them as far as all the travelling is concerned?
angela
Oct 16, 2007 at 5:48 am
let’s just respect brad and angie’s decision. i’m sure its the best for their kids and their profession. the important thing here is that no matter where they go - they always give education a priority for their kids regardless of the school.
Jess0
Oct 16, 2007 at 5:57 am
Brad and Angie know what’s best for their family. I hope they are having a peaceful couple of days off and we can see them in LA soon.
Please vote for Angie as star of the year
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/movieawards/femalestar.html
irma
Oct 16, 2007 at 6:03 am
Sophia, traveling that’s a part of having the best education, learning other things thru actual experience. When they get old they will reflect on those experiences & none will ever compete with that, of course, being in the classroom, interacting with your peers are very important but being around with your parents, siblings & go from one place to another as a family are the best. For now, they travel as a family & being with love ones are the most important thing, I am so sure that they travel with tutors since they can afford it. We used to travel a lot, lived all over the world, my kids are well adjusted, 2 have graduated in college & the youngest one is still in college. They didn’t complain & they loved it, I’m glad they had the opportunity to meet other people from other countries & explore their knowledge about the world around them, they became so in tuned with what’s going on around the world, now that they are grown, we decided to stay in one place & enjoy each other, my eldest lives in Germany, my 2 sons still lives around this place. Brad & Ange’s children will be on their own once they grow up & for the parents, it’s time for them to sit down & lay back, they will retire one day but not at the peak of their career. God bless the Jolie-Pitt’s.
Lisa
Oct 16, 2007 at 6:10 am
Carrie, I agree with you. i would never do that to my kids, make them change scools and friends and schedules every month or so. But it is also true that I don’t know how much of the true world these kids will ever know. Do they really have real friens with whom they can ride bike around the neighborhood? do they really need an education? Anyhow, I love this family and just sit here watching the pictures and read all these comments which I really enjoy, but I guess this is not concerning any of us all.
Arezoo(angelina)
Oct 16, 2007 at 7:36 am
YOU’RE SO RIGHT! THAT’S WHAT ANGELINA AND BRAD SAID IN A MAGAZINE INTERVIEW.
sophie
Oct 16, 2007 at 8:57 am
AJ is filming “The Changeling” (Clint Eastwood movie) in LA…look at:
http://dlisted.com/node/16641
ligaya
Oct 16, 2007 at 1:09 pm
My husband was formerly a trained childcare worker/preschool teacher. Here is his take: “Children quickly adjust to new playmates in daycare centers so there is very little trauma associated with moving. My experience is with preschoolers. As children get older, the moving round would get more problematic – especially for teenagers where friendships are deeper than just playmates. My feeling is that moving around is probably OK up to age 10 and maybe to age 13, but difficult after that.”
Carrie, I’m not talking just about opinion. There are also studies that have concluded that nomadic mobility as children is not the automatic path to doom & destruction as adults. I’ve never seen a study which said stability (as defined by a married nuclear hetero family living in the same house/neighborhood & going to one elementary/middle/high school) was the guaranteed path to a stable, happy life. In fact my (and my colleagues’) training & experience of over 30 years working in the mental health field have involved more patients from ‘stable’ backgrounds than not. Even so, I’m not concluding that ‘stable’ backgrounds cause mental illness.
ligaya
Oct 16, 2007 at 1:11 pm
My husband was formerly a trained childcare worker/preschool teacher. Here is his take: “Children quickly adjust to new playmates in daycare centers so there is very little trauma associated with moving. My experience is with preschoolers. As children get older, the moving round would get more problematic – especially for teenagers where friendships are deeper than just playmates. My feeling is that moving around is probably OK up to age 10 and maybe to age 13, but difficult after that.”
ligaya
Oct 16, 2007 at 1:14 pm
Carrie, I’m not talking just about opinion. There are also studies that have concluded that nomadic mobility as children is not the automatic path to doom & destruction as adults. I’ve never seen a study which said stability (as defined by a married nuclear hetero family living in the same house/neighborhood & going to one elementary/middle/high school) was the guaranteed path to a stable, happy life. In fact my (and my colleagues’) training & experience of over 30 years working in the mental health field have involved more patients from ‘stable’ backgrounds than not. Even so, I’m not concluding that ‘stable’ backgrounds cause mental illness.
Loren
Oct 16, 2007 at 5:10 pm
I am not worried about the very young Pitt-Jolie children. The oldest is only 6. I agree with ligaya and irma. Every family is unique unto itself. Will they have trouble with the kids?, probably. Most of us go through rough patches with children no matter how we raise them! So they need to enjoy them now. As they (the children) get bigger, they(the parents) will hear opinions and criticism from them, just like other parents do. Children can always tell you exactly what you did wrong. (smile) For the present they are doing what they think is best. Raising a family is challenging under most circumstances. I just wish them the best!
ambeach
Oct 16, 2007 at 6:05 pm
it’s funny how everyone puts their two cents in (including me) about how someone should educate their children. Do you/me see any other celebs being torn apart about their child/ren being in/out of school or home school. We have no idea if AJ/BP don’t have tutors travelling with them and home schooling all the children. Didn’t I read somewhere that both the boys are learning their native languages - meaning they do have private tutors. Let’s worry about our own children and not be so critical of others when we only see a glimse of them from afar.
me too
Oct 16, 2007 at 7:11 pm
loves bampzs…..I can’t agree with you on very much that you said. To say that Shiloh is “slow” or needs ” some energy” or that she just is there and doesn’t respond is WAY overboard to me. She is a 17 month old child. What on earth do you want her to act like if I may ask? The one thing you keep saying that really makes me uneasy is the importance that you put on people’s attractiveness. You talk as if beauty is the only thing that matters in life. You say that people would not have all that attention if they were not beautiful/attractive. I don’t know how you were raised but I sure wasn’t raised to believe that all the “attractive” people or people worth knowing were the “beautiful” people. I know plenty of people who are VERY attractive and I wouldn’t give them the time of day.
Neela
Oct 16, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Amen, ambeach. The topic has been so exhausted. What it comes down to is that even though we get to see pics of this family and hear some news, we still don’t know what goes on in their personal lives, and that includes the kind of education their children are receiving. We should just wish them the best. :)
BlessBrangelina
Oct 16, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Thanks *ambeach*
Presumptious and VERY selective in the way some people comment on regarding Brad and Angie’s choices for their children. most of their OWN words are discarded.
Enya
Oct 17, 2007 at 2:48 am
Did not Angelina say, she would take a year off, to take care of Pax? To me, it seems, they use the moment of popularity to push their acting careers. Both, they are making a movie after movie…
ligaya
Oct 18, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Enya (lovely name, btw), didn’t you read Angie’s interviews at Cannes earlier this year when she and Brad were promoting A Mighty Heart & Ocean’s 13? Or the previous thread that went over this question extensively? Paraphrasing my earlier post, Angie said in those interviews (among other things) that after Cannes she had two months worth of work to finish on Wanted. Then the family would take a month off (remember the vacation with Mariane & Adam Pearl in France, the amusement park, bowling?), and she had another two months work on The Changeling – all happening according to Angie’s statements.
Don’t be alarmed when Angie doesn’t fall off the face of the earth in 2008 (Brad mentioned a summer vacation). She said she’d take a year off from working – from making new films. But she still has to meet obligations in her contracts – meaning she has to do publicity & premieres for Wanted, The Changeling and Kung Fu Panda. Brad will probably want her at his side for his premieres, too. Not to mention their humanitarian work, her U.N.H.C.R. Goodwill Ambassador and Council on Foreign Relations responsibilities. Angelina is still spokesmodel for Shiseido & St. John (she donated her $12 million pay to charity, over & above the third of her income she donates annually). And it would be safe to predict the paparazzi will continue to follow her everywhere. Just saying.
ligaya
Oct 18, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Enya (lovely name, btw), didn’t you read Angie’s interviews at Cannes earlier this year when she and Brad were promoting A Mighty Heart & Ocean’s 13? Or the previous thread that went over this question extensively? Paraphrasing my earlier post, Angie said in those interviews (among other things) that after Cannes she had two months worth of work to finish on Wanted. Then the family would take a month off (remember the vacation with Mariane & Adam Pearl in France, the amusement park, bowling?), and she had another two months work on The Changeling – all happening according to Angie’s statements.
ligaya
Oct 18, 2007 at 10:26 pm
P.S. Don’t be alarmed when Angie doesn’t fall off the face of the earth in 2008 (Brad mentioned a summer vacation). She said she’d take a year off from working – from making new films. But she still has to meet obligations in her contracts – meaning she has to do publicity & premieres for Wanted, The Changeling and Kung Fu Panda. Brad will probably want her at his side for his premieres, too. Not to mention their humanitarian work, her U.N.H.C.R. Goodwill Ambassador and Council on Foreign Relations responsibilities. Angelina is still spokesmodel for Shiseido & St. John (she donated her $12 million pay to charity, over & above the third of her income she donates annually). And it would be safe to predict the paparazzi will continue to follow her everywhere. Just saying.
naty
Oct 19, 2007 at 5:07 pm
FOR me I THINK ITS OKEY, these couple i admire is nomadic family and besides i dont think so it will affected to their children especially maddox for sure he knows how busy his parents and they are so close to each other im really impress to angie and brad as a couple they want only to protect their childrens. thanks sherry!
Faryal
Oct 20, 2007 at 6:04 am
Okay Brad, how about you give me US$20 000. I am begging you. Just give me the money, don’t make me beg too much.
Molly
Oct 20, 2007 at 8:22 am
Clever, ligaya! We always have to bear in mind that BA’s detractors take every opportunity to pounce on what they say, poring over these with a fine-tooth comb. Nitpicking and twisting words around.
Goodness, maybe from now on, BA should have a lawyer draw out a long, iron-clad thesis for every question ask of them! They try to answer questions casually, spontaneously and generally. There’s no time to go into every details that would satisfy the “non-fans”.
I don’t recall Angie saying specifically that she’ll take a year off after Wanted. I doubt she meant Wanted, she might be referring to Changeling.
Regardless of what she said, I’m sure the critics will have something negative to say even if she did take the year off right after Wanted! Desperation screams out of their pathetic and futile attempts to bring this couple down.
Love BAMPZS
Nov 12, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Enya,
What ever. Pax has adjusted. He is fine. he use to sleep with Mom&Day, and take his pants off all the time. Now he seems to be adjusted to the Jolie-pitt way of life.
Geo
Jan 1, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Thanks Sherry!
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